In an effort to improve communication between Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit and Lisa Madigan, I offer the following suggested correction. What Madigan no doubt meant was (corrections in bold):
If someone without a penis tells you they’ve been a victim of sexual assault by someone with a penis, I want you to believe them.
You’re welcome.
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“You’re welcome” not “Your welcome.”
[D: Thanks! I saw that as soon as I hit submit.]
Well Lisa, we do (or should I say “did”) believe them. And then we got Crystal Gail Magnum at Duke and “Jackie” at UVa. So…. what do you want us to do?
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Ever notice the link between evil men and women in places of influence and power and their inability to communicate ideas without redefining the very meaning of the words in that language? It’s as if evil has a “shadow language” counterpart to every language with identical grammar, but with a different usage altogether.
And then we got Crystal Gail Magnum at Duke and “Jackie” at UVa. So…. what do you want us to do?
Why, you take them at their word, like you would EVERY woman who makes this claim, you penis-wielding patriarchal misogynist! Can’t you get it through your neanderthal, oppressive head that EVERY interaction with a man that a woman has is RAAAAAAAAAPE??!!
Dalrock – Nice try, but you’re neglecting all the sexual assault endured by the phallus-inclusive womyn of the transgendered community.
I woke up this morning and felt something amiss. I was slow getting out of bed and was almost late for work. I’m pretty sure my naughty bits were fondled inappropriately by Lisa Madigan while I was asleep. I’m traumatized to the point where I’ve had only 2 cups of coffee so far and I ordered Mongolian Beef instead General Tao’s Chicken for lunch.
This is how I express pain, don’t judge me.
And don’t you dare forget Twana Brawley!
“Pain is my co-pilot” – Paul Blart
@phillyastro.
Dalrock simply said, “someone with a penis.” He didn’t specify that it had to be biologically attached at birth via connective tissue to a pubic bone.
But then, we must always be precise in OUR use language!
Why, you take them at their word, like you would EVERY woman who makes this claim, you penis-wielding patriarchal misogynist! Can’t you get it through your neanderthal, oppressive head that EVERY interaction with a man that a woman has is RAAAAAAAAAPE??!!
FINALLY!!! Someone gets it.
Tom,
I think it was just a couple years ago when Tawana started making her first wage garnishment payments to Steve Pagones.
http://nypost.com/2013/08/04/pay-up-time-for-brawley-87-rape-hoaxer-finally-shells-out-for-slander/
I’m actually surprised he ever got a dime out of her on his judgement.
Close, but what about a person with a penis who self-identifies as a person without a penis, or a person without a penis who self-identifies as someone with one, or ….
You can’t ever really improve communication with people who think the way they do.
Dalrock,
Did you see this one?
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-04-22/when-deadbeat-dads-can-t-catch-a-break
I know you are big on the evils of child support (whether or not it is a “necessary” evil.) But I expect there will be more and more of this.
@MarcusD
I had to speed read this this morning at 7am……busy day! Anyhoo……Saw this in the life section of the Toronto Star.Woman 39 has kid via sperm donor…..the donor also has twins in Houston….and twins to a ‘dyke couple’ in Florida. I had to post this.Sorry Dalrock for being “off topic”.But,I thought that you and all of my brethren posters at your blog need to see this.This “masturbation for money” BS has got to stop!…..I really feel sorry for these kids!
http://www.thestar.com/life/2015/04/23/how-dozens-of-diblings-enrich-little-mayas-family-life.html
Mark,
A “friend” of mine admitted to me that he masturbated his way through Boston University. This was 1990-1992. $35 a sample, ten times per month.
10 months (took the summer off) times 10 jerk-ffs = 100 samples with maximum fertility. Sold for $35 a pop, $3500 a year tax free. Times 3 years = $10500 for jerking off in a cup 300 times, while in college. It wont stop. The feminist imperative says it must continue.
crowhill,
I think I’m a person-with-a-penis who self-identifies as a person-without-a-penis-who-self-identies-as-a-person-with-a-penis.
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For today, at least.
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(Or is it the other way around? It’s just SO HARD to tell these days…)
So, Lisa Madigan wants us to believe that the Scottsboro Boys and Emmett Till were guilty, because #waronwomen. Got it. Feminists are the new KKK.
@IBB
Thanks for the link.In Canada,if you are $20K behind in child support?…You go to jail. I know 2 guys,personally,that have been awarded the kids,and CS.The wimminz are $35k behind in CS.Are they in jail?…..did they lose their driver’s license?..of course not!….No double standard there????….WTF? My oldest sister’s(idiot) oldest child….16(male) packed his bags 3 weeks ago,when his mother was gone.Left her a note….”I am going to live with my father…..”FUCK YOU!”.He went to his father’s house and he was not home.He called me.I had him come over to my place.Of course,when she read the note,she called the POLICE!…..I got in touch with my ‘ex-BIL’…..told him what happened.He told me “keep him at your place”……Which I did.I went over to his house immediately…..I knew the cops were going to be there……..They were! I told the cops…”Get lost…this is none of your f****** business! A FemaNazi got in my face and ‘befriended” my sister…..”I will help you out…your hubby is “evil”…..L*…..I stepped in and told her point blank….”do not make enemies that you need not make”…..She responded…”are you threatening me”?……I replied…”No I am not….just giving you sound advice”…… Anyways,they could not find the kid. Then I had my “personal attorney” call her and let her know….”if you want a fight?….you are in the right crowd”.Then I called a “cop friend” of mine and told him to pass the message on….”If you want a fight with Mark and his family….they will give you one…..you will probably end up losing your job….or Mark might end up putting you in the Toronto Harbour…….LEAVE IT ALONE!….IT IS “FAMILY BUSINESS”…….she got the point….But,she is still “sympathetic” to my sister…and they are now friends???……….You have no idea how much a hate these “Wimminz Gov’t Idiots”……Especially Wimminz cops…..”WannaBe Men with Vaginas”……WOW!…..what f****** losers!
@Mark
Based on the article, it looks like that guy may have 60 or more kids through this. Reminds me of this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2387559/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_5
@IBB
“”Times 3 years = $10500 for jerking off in a cup 300 times, while in college.””
And to think that you,or myself….and the rest of the regular posters…..had the audacity to actually get a job and pay our way through school??????…….WTF??????……….Maybe we are the ones that are the idiots?…….LMAO!…………………………….just had to throw that one in!!!!!!!!
What I meant to say some sexes are more equal than others.
Mark, I would like to offer you a soothing cup of honey vanilla chamomile tea.
Whenever a woman accuses a man of rape – ask yourself what she has to gain. Is she excusing her own actions that she feels badly about? Is she looking for money? Simply put – women lie… More often than men, as they are not held accountable, nor charged for their lies. So when you have nothing to lose, look for what there is to gain. I learned long ago – women are like cops – they get away with lying, cheating, and in some cases murder with little or no accountability. So, color me skeptical… Of course, I’ve seen women claiming rape more than once, when it was complete BS… And I was accused once – of course that video of that particular event made things miraculously disappear. To be honest, I’m surprised they haven’t outlawed such things – I’m sure they will in the future. I’m sure they are working on legislation so that it’s literally illegal to refute or defend yourself against the unfounded accusations of women…
Regular Guy:
“Suppose you are an intellectual impostor with nothing to say, but with strong ambitions to succeed in academic life, collect a coterie of reverent disciples and have students around the world anoint your pages with respectful yellow highlighter. What kind of literary style would you cultivate? Not a lucid one, surely, for clarity would expose your lack of content. ”
http://old.richarddawkins.net/articles/824
JS,
This was dramatized in the 1979 movie “And Justice For All….” Al Pacino was the defense attorney for a man accused of rape. And he is disgusted with himself. But before he ended his legal career in the courtroom he asks a series of questions that need to be asked to judge the credibility of the rape victim. I quote:
Okay so Tawana Brawley, Crystal Gail Magnum, and “Jackie” at UVa, what were their motives to lie? You know what, we all know they lied but other than being insane I see no real motive. What did these girls have to gain?
@ The Real Peterman
Something that Atheists like Richard Dawkins and and Christian apologists like John Lennox can agree upon. Post-modernist thought is anti-thought rooted in narcissism and incompetence.
I like Mark.
@ IBB
“Arthur Kirkland: The one thing that bothered me, the one thing that stayed in my mind and I couldn’t get rid of it, that haunted me, was ‘why?’ Why would she lie? What was her motive for lyin’? If my client is innocent, she’s lying. Why? Was it blackmail? No. Was it jealousy? No. Yesterday, I found out why. She doesn’t have a motive. You know why? Because she’s not lying”
The blue-pill thought process on display; taking a woman’s word at face value. It’s a rut I was stuck in for most of my life without realizing it.
Take a look at her wikipedia page
>>Okay so Tawana Brawley, Crystal Gail Magnum, and “Jackie” at UVa, what were their motives to lie? You know what, we all know they lied but other than being insane I see no real motive. What did these girls have to gain?<<
Generalized hatred of men and/or whites?
Just a little background for you most fortunate fellows who do NOT live in Illinois: Lisa Madigan is the Illinois Attorney General. Her father, Michael Madigan, is the Illinois Speaker of the House in the state legislature, a position he’s held for 30+ years, and is also chairman of the Democratic Party of Illinois. Most observers agree that he rules the state legislature. Illinois is one of the most corrupt states in the USA and is essentially bankrupt – probably in the worst fiscal shape of any of the 50 states.
Setting aside the risk of STD’s, ordinary sex outside of marriage for a man can easily end in a rape accusation.
Marital sex for a man, reputedly mundane and infrequent and usually with a fat wife, can now also lead to a rape accusation.
One’s perspective depends on the circle one travels in I suppose. Skipping all the other dangers for men associating with women or even worse wives, how can MGTOW not be on the horizon? Sex is the only real hook in this game anyway, take that away by making it to dangerous and what’s left? Ever notice how girls don’t even exist to most young boys? It’s like they’re invisible until boys approach puberty and then girls become primarily something to fear. Yeah, that swinging pendulum, maybe it is starting to slowly swing the other way but I won’t be surprised if it breaks smooth off before this show ends.
Carnivore, cosign your comment above. Lived in ‘Alton’ in the southern extreme of The Land of Lincoln. Left in 1978 but the surviving family there and 50 subsequent visits have me convinced that La Cosa Nostra upheld higher ethical standards than the liberal democrat lunatics running that state now.
http://www.catholicmatch.com/institute/2015/04/the-one-most-important-quality-to-look-for-in-a-spouse/
The comments are interesting.
So is it fair to call this a cock up or wouldn’t that be appropriate? 😀
What’s the story behind this?
@MarcusD
I think the big problem with this advice is that it separates the two things and then says ‘this is the better one’.
Obviously you want to be friends with your spouse, but you also want to be attracted to them too. Having a marriage based off only one or the other is like driving a car with two inflated tires.
‘Sex is the only real hook in this game anyway, take that away by making it to dangerous and what’s left?’
I think after the many after effects men encounter with women who use sex as their hook…men are waking up to what these women are. Snares, traps, prison chains. Ecc 7:26.
Some guys will still be dense about this…until they get trapped by one.
@ISB
Okay so Tawana Brawley, Crystal Gail Magnum, and “Jackie” at UVa, what were their motives to lie? You know what, we all know they lied but other than being insane I see no real motive. What did these girls have to gain?
The one with the mattress that was her senior thesis I believe. She was too lazy to write a paper that was him anything about that. All decide to do a performance art piece.
Remember lifetime teaching girl that if a girl put out, even if she want to it rape . You ever seen the campus rape Movie with Zack from saved by bell and DJ from full house?
In my experience. Real victims keep the mouth shut realizing it’s probably their fault. Most of these claims are made by women want to attention.
The devil is the father of lies; he was a murderer from the beginning.
If one interacts with a pathological or compulsive liar at all, one quickly realises there is no motivation or rhyme or reason to the lying. The ancients called it demon possession.
The only cure is a love of the truth.
‘Sex is the only real hook in this game anyway, take that away by making it to dangerous and what’s left?’
Maybe there is wisdom in the Old Book after all: Never bump uglies with any person, man or woman, who is not your spouse. Sex as a hook has been used throughout the ages, as shown by the wise man who should have known better. Maybe that is why “sex workers” are also called “Hookers”?
Proverbs 7:
21 With persuasive words she led him astray; she seduced him with her smooth talk.
22 All at once he followed her like an ox going to the slaughter, like a deer stepping into a noose
23 till an arrow pierces his liver, like a bird darting into a snare, little knowing it will cost him his life.
“What did these girls have to gain?”
Attention. Affirmation. The aduluation of certain groups of people.
Jackie, for instance, was apparently treated as a celebrity on campus by the feminists, sex-assualt activists and various fellow travellers. Plus it caused the administration to treat her with kid gloves when she wasn’t doing well in school.
Both the Bible and Qur’an contain valuable insights for men, and every man ought to read them. I find the King James Version to be less watered down than any of the new “modern” translations, despite the remnants of middle-english pronouns and such. A good resource for anyone serious about “women’s and gender studies” lol.
‘Maybe there is wisdom in the Old Book after all: Never bump uglies with any person, man or woman, who is not your spouse.’
The big reason, which I didn’t even realize until chewing on it a bit more…you lose the free will to choose a spouse in the matter. Sex bonds you so you don’t know if they are with you because of the sex or because they freely want to be with you. Think about it…if a woman has to trap you to get you, how much can she really desire you…and once she does trap you she can take the hook away. If you have to manipulate a woman to get her, you’d always wonder if she really ever did want you freely.
Whereas if you get married before having the sex…there’s a higher chance you freely chose each other because of who you are.
For Dalrock and the other serious bloggers who read here. Interesting news from the potato state…
An international agreement to make it easier to enforce child support orders throughout the world is in danger of not being ratified in the United States because of nine conservative lawmakers in Idaho.
http://www.ktvb.com/story/news/local/idaho/2015/04/21/child-support-idaho-families/26149999/
Whatever their motives, this is an interesting bit of resistance.
“Whereas if you get married before having the sex…there’s a higher chance you freely chose each other because of who you are.”
Having sex before marriage can be important (at least once) – What if a couple doesn’t have sex before marriage, then get married, have sex, and it’s awful? They find out they are sexually incompatible and one or the other, or both, turns the other off? What if the woman finds that his penis is too small?
Just a thought.
Yeah…they are thoughts.
Having sex before marriage can be important (at least once) – What if a couple doesn’t have sex before marriage, then get married, have sex, and it’s awful?
What did you expect first time sex to be? A cloud nine experience? Duh! First time sex must be awful. If you have ever been at the practice sessions of even great performers, you’d realize that their first attempts are almost always awful.
That is the exact reason for couples to “practice” sex more often, and communicate their needs to each other without shame.
They find out they are sexually incompatible and one or the other, or both, turns the other off?
All nomal men are sexually and anatomically compatible with all normal women. There is nothing to be found out through premarital sex that open, honest communication cannot reveal.
Any two people—man and woman–who want to be sexually compatible will become sexually compatible through open communication, desire to learn new things, and frequent practice. Sex is not exactly rocket science. Even the dumbest animals do it, and do it well.
What if the woman finds that his penis is too small?
Only slutty women who have been stretched by many men find the average penises “too small”, and engaging in premarital sex won’t fix that. Even, in the rare cases of the man having a micropenis, an honest communication will make that clear; sex is not necessary.
There is no tenable excuse under the sun to violate God’s clear commands regarding sex. None.
OK, let’s flip it. Provided the couple decided to have premarital sex, and they discover that they are not “sexually compatible”, or the sex is “awful”, or the man’s penis is “too small”. What then? Will they break up, and start searching for new partners? And what if the new partners have some form of sexual “incompatibility” with either of them? Break up again, and start the search all over again, sampling men and women all over town, the way you sample wine? How thrilled will the man eventually be when he finds a “sexually compatible” woman who has been “sampled” by so many men over the years? How can he reject the honorary title of “Captain Save-A-Hoe”?
@ Boxer
“An international agreement to make it easier to enforce child support orders throughout the world is in danger of not being ratified in the United States because of nine conservative lawmakers in Idaho.”
So I can suppose it’s just a matter of time before the prime earning class target of the world, American White men, will be on the hook for paternity fraud domestically AND abroad now? If you are a white male and are planning to take a vacation to Sweden after this becomes law, you’re playing a dangerous game of chicken with your future.
You chaste bros might not know this, but the human vagina is highly malleable. A woman who has been stretched by child birth “returns” to a sort of standard tightness. Even a dude with a tiny little pinky dick, like me, has a hard time getting it in to a woman who has gone without for a while.
The way you guys talk, you’d think that after having her first kid, a woman is sexually useless. Your wives sorta refute that, don’t they? I can safely assume that married bros who have multiple kids still have fun with their wives.
The main problem with penis size, in the literature, is men who are too big (by the same token, though, if they get a regular partner, this doesn’t matter, because the vagina in question molds itself to fit the dude).
Furthermore, most of the nerve endings in the vagina are located exterior to the labia minora, and after about 2cm, they taper off entirely. Obviously, a dude with a 2cm penis ought to disclose this before marriage, but the vast majority of men don’t need to worry about being “too small”. The whole topic is largely a feminist construct to humiliate men they don’t like.
I hope this is helpful.
Boxer
‘You chaste bros might not know this, but the human vagina is highly malleable.’
Considering what it goes through childbirth…I doubt you need sex to know this fact.
Agreed that the vagina is an elastic organ. However, with repeated stretches it loses some of its elasticity. This is readily noticeable by some husbands after their wives give birth. Moreover, in these days when sex is not a simple activity (you can only imagine what people insert into their bodies these days in the name of sex), those women who have been repeatedly stretched by some well hung dude will definitely lose some of their tightness. I don’t think that is debatable.
Beeker @ 10:56 am:
“Having sex before marriage can be important (at least once) – What if a couple doesn’t have sex before marriage, then get married, have sex, and it’s awful?”
Awful compared to what? They have no experience to measure their spouse by and this is a good thing. The most vile mechanism of hypergamy is hating what you have because somebody, somewhere is having better. Learn to enjoy what you have.
“They find out they are sexually incompatible and one or the other, or both, turns the other off? What if the woman finds that his penis is too small?”
A man can tell with little more than a look whether he’d shag a girl. She won’t have trouble either if she likes being petted and played with. Sexuality doesn’t exist only between bedsheets.
‘There is no tenable excuse under the sun to violate God’s clear commands regarding sex. None.’
The ‘try before you buy’ talk is using your will over God’s. If this were actually true then cohabiting couples and couples who had premarital sex before marrying would have less divorce than the virgins who go into it not knowing.
“Ask yourself what she has to gain.”
What she has to gain is something most men will never understand because it doesn’t have to be earned or deserved.
It’s ATTENTION. She wants attention. And she doesn’t care why she’s getting it. My little dog does the same thing. She will put herself directly in my line of sight, blocking my view of whatever I am looking at. Why? Because she craves my attention.
Other times she will climb on my lap and judge my hand until it is on top of her tummy and she will lay there, waiting for me to mindlessly start rubbing her tummy. And if I don’t she will nudge me again with her nose until I start petting her. She couldn’t care less that I am otherwise involved. She doesn’t even care that I don’t WANT to pet her or that I am annoyed by her. She craves my attention.
You see this behavior in all animals and people of lower status, whether it be lower strength, power, influence, money, skill, intelligence, whatever. Though they cannot EARN it, they biologically crave it. This lower status-motivated behavior explains everything from the Salem Witch Trials to the modern internet troll phenomena.
Personally, as a self-described “higher beta” sexually, but a mid-alpha intellectually and morally, I would rather just withdraw from the herd or troop than engage in the frustrating battle for the limited attention of people I have no interest in or respect for. But that does not appear to be a choice most women can make. They are too weak and needy. For every Jerrmiah Johnson there is. . . No woman anywhere, ever. It is a limitation of biology. There is really nothing they can do about it.
I believe the medical community recognizes that childbirth often results in reduced vaginal tightness and other consequences, for example, uterine prolapse (which my ex-wife experienced). When tissue is stretched far enough, it does not return to its original state, although it may be close. Yes, I still had fun with my ex-wife after two kids, but, no, it wasn’t as tight.
However, I’m fairly certain even the smallest full-term baby greatly exceeds the largest human penis ever, so that is comparing apples to oranges (or bananas to bowling balls). I would be greatly surprised if any vagina was ever stretched by a human penis to the point that it would not return fairly quickly to its original tightness. Note: I am not saying that a woman could not feel the difference between a large and small penis, but I think the vagina would be much the same tightness.
Having sex before marriage can be important (at least once) – What if a couple doesn’t have sex before marriage, then get married, have sex, and it’s awful? They find out they are sexually incompatible and one or the other, or both, turns the other off? What if the woman finds that his penis is too small?
Just a thought.
http://courtshippledge.com/2014/03/the-final-logical-conclusion-of-dating-is-finally-upon-us/
How’s that joke go?
An old couple are sitting on the porch in the evening when the old woman hits the man and says “That’s for 40 years of bad sex.”
A few minutes later, the man hits the old woman, “That’s for knowing the differerence.”
Having sex before marriage can be important (at least once) – What if a couple doesn’t have sex before marriage, then get married, have sex, and it’s awful? They find out they are sexually incompatible and one or the other, or both, turns the other off? What if the woman finds that his penis is too small?
Just a thought.
What exactly is “sexually incompatible”? If the sex is awful, maybe the expectations were out of line. The only thing useful about sex before marriage is it is an indicator that said participant may not be suitable for marriage (to anyone).
@Embracing Reality
“”how can MGTOW not be on the horizon? Sex is the only real hook in this game anyway, take that away by making it to dangerous and what’s left?””
MGTOW is the reaction to all this femi-nazi BS.MGTOW is inevitable.There are A LOT of guys that are MGTOW and they do not even realize it.They just have never heard of the acronym to describe their lifestyle.I have met MANY in the last 5 to 7 years.They avoid women like the plague…..and these are not “welfare bums” either.They are educated and have great careers.They have just had the brains to figure out that “Modern Wimminz” are a joke and not worth the time,money or the legalities.A good one for you.I got asked out by a HAWT 42 year old on Wednesday afternoon.I gave her a business card and wrote a cell number on the back of it,and told her,”’Text me tomm.(Thurs)”.I also told her…”Oh by the way….No sex…no date”. This through her for a loop! She texted me yesterday….”I cannot believe that you said that..’No sex…No date”. I texted her back…”I don’t waste time….I have no reason to date,as I can always call one of my ‘booty calls’.Then I texted her again…”This is becoming WAY too much work…I am going to cancel and make other plans…have a nice weekend”….She texted me back…”You are fucking asshole”…….I have ever claimed to be anything else???….Lmao!!!…….After this I shut the phone off for 3 hours.Later I turned the phone back on to receive…”You have 13 messages”……MY response…”DELETE ALL”???….”YES”!……………The moral of this story?……SW…SW…SW…NEXT!……….Some will….some won’t…so what!….NEXT! …….They are not worth the time to worry,fret or get concerned over.Besides sex they are generally USELESS!
Modern women who decided they should be masculine instead of feminine aren’t worth your time, money, or your body.
Mark said,
“There are A LOT of guys that are MGTOW and they do not even realize it.They just have never heard of the acronym to describe their lifestyle.I have met MANY in the last 5 to 7 years.They avoid women like the plague…..and these are not “welfare bums” either.They are educated and have great careers.”
I suppose it’s the circles we travel in but I too know men who are successful, able to attract women but who are disinterested in marriage and in some cases any interaction with the split tails. Careless people rarely accumulate wealth and certainly don’t retain it long. A likable but chronically ‘down on his luck’ man I knew constantly made foolish choices with money, life, females had a reply for me when I offered him some red pills. “I’ve got nothing to lose!”. I disagreed as he has the potential to lose children, freedom (child support imprisonment), home etc in a divorce but it’s a matter of degree. He certainly has a hell of a lot less to lose than I do.
I’ve fought a war to get where I am, no silver spoon. Even my plastic spoon was borrowed. Iv’e got the scars, inside and out, to prove I fought my war to reach just the bottom of the top. I can’t afford to risk what I’ve bled 2 decades for without an extensive double-prenup in a marriage, preferably to a financially similarly positioned wife (I’ve dated such women, they do exist). Children for me, it’s absolutely out of the question. I don’t owe this worthless damn feminist society my genetic legacy, frankly I don’t want a stake in the future. It’s a personal choice I call- peace of mind.
What exactly is “sexually incompatible”? If the sex is awful, maybe the expectations were out of line. The only thing useful about sex before marriage is it is an indicator that said participant may not be suitable for marriage (to anyone).
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Is that akin to “accidental pregnancy”?
I really never got this idea about said incompatibility anyway. How can penis in vagina and teh resultant procreation be incompatible?
I guess if one turns sex into a hobby like your average degenerate western European does, then I get that…
‘I guess if one turns sex into a hobby like your average degenerate western European does, then I get that…’
That’s basically the fear it comes from. Turning sex into a hobby makes it boring.
@mark
egalities.A good one for you.I got asked out by a HAWT 42 year old on Wednesday afternoon.I gave her a business card and wrote a cell number on the back of it,and told her,”’Text me tomm.(Thurs)”.I also told her…”Oh by the way….No sex…no date”. This through her for a loop! She texted me yesterday….”I cannot believe that you said that..’No sex…No date”. I texted her back…”I don’t waste time….I have no reason to date,as I can always call one of my ‘booty calls’.Then I texted her again…”This is becoming WAY too much work…I am going to cancel and make other plans…have a nice weekend”….She texted me back…”You are fucking asshole”…….I have ever claimed to be anything else???….Lmao!!!…….After this I shut the phone off for 3 hours.Later I turned the phone back on to receive…”You have 13 messages”……MY response
That is Funny. I want to write a short film about that 🙂
@Johnny
Moderns are told sexual fulfilment and happiness is the highest and greatest goal in life; thus, the spectre of sexual incompatibility with one’s spouse is the most terrifying thing they can imagine.
Worse than starvation, war, pestilence