I do not think I can top Vox’s message so I will copy it here:
A Merry Christmas Eve to you all. The night is dark and we find ourselves in a time of war. And yet, we remain joyful and thankful.
I love Christmas Eve, the midnight masses, the candlelight services, the cheerful Christmas greetings, and the certain knowledge that all around the world, the vast network of believers reaches into every darkness and shadow.
But whether the season’s greeting is said openly with a smile or whispered surreptitiously under threat of death and torture, the Christmas message of hope in a fallen world remains the same.
With this I will only add that I will be praying for Pastor Abedini and his family tonight and tomorrow, as well as the rest of the persecuted church. I also pray for God to bless each and every one of you who have taken the time to read this humble blog.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
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Merry Christmas and may God bless all here. Thanks to you, Dalrock, for your writings.
Western Christians– Merry Christmas!!
That message is indeed difficult to top.
Thanks for all you write here. It is an inspiration to us all. May your family be well.
Please remember those of us on the Julian calendar as we eagerly await His birth.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas. I pray that God will have mercy on all those men needlessly suffering, and lead them to Red Pill awareness. Let their eyes will be opened, so they can begin to see the world for what it truly is, and finally begin to have the peace and contentment in life so many of them deserve.
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Merry Christmas, Dalrock. May God bless you and your family – and all your readers as well. You are doing God’s work here, dare I say one of only too few voices calling out in the wilderness.
Without question, one of the best gifts I have received in the last two years was discovering this site and the regular administration of sanity it delivers. Would that God raise up pastors to teach from the pulpit the Biblical truth dispensed on these pages along with spaces where men can share face to face with the level of candor we enjoy here. Our society has never been more in need of these things. Thank you for the investment of yourself and your time this site obviously entails.
Merry Christmas!
Merry christmas from down under.
many thanks for the effort running this blog.
an oasis in the digital desert of cyberspace
Merry Christmas!
Am I the only one here who doesn’t buy this tradcon narrative about civilizational war?
Merry Christmas Dal to you & your own. Thanks for the the goldmine of wisdom you have contributed.
Some red letters for red pill-ers…..for this day.
Merry Christmas, and God Bless Us, Everyone
Merry Christmas!
Have a great Christmas and New Year.
This blog and the people who partake in it are a gift of sanity in a world gone insane. Thank you all!
Merry Christmas
A very Merry and Blessed Christmas to Dalrock and all who participate here.
nastynate: I pray that God will have mercy on all those men needlessly suffering, and lead them to Red Pill awareness … and finally begin to have the peace and contentment in life so many of them deserve.
In my Blue Pills days, I pedestalized women. I romanticized women. I thought them finer, kinder, more elevated in their thoughts and desires, more faithful and loyal by nature, and more spiritual than men.
Red Pill awareness did not bring me happiness. It popped my bubble, awoke me from my dreams and fantasies, and showed me the dark reality I lived in.
Dalrock,
I have always wondered why you associate yourself with Vox Day. His brand of “Christianity” seems far from yours. You always seem bring the same message of God’s Truth and Justice tempered by His Mercy that we hear in the Gospels, Epistles and the writings of the Church Fathers. Vox seems to forget the Mercy part, fly through the Truth part, and screech headfirst into the Justice part. Every single time. That, and his ardent support for Norwegian mass-murderer Anders Breivik, make me wonder why you continue to link to him and his writings?
Have a blessed Christmas.
Jim
RPL, would you rather try to navigate the streets of Bakersfield, California with a map of Minas Tirith, Gondor, or a map of Bakersfield, California?
People speak of “being disillusioned” as if it were a bad thing (using the word that way so much so, that the word now has an indelibly negative, pessimistic implication), but being dis-illusioned must actually mean that, since you now know Reality, your choices can at least be conscious ones, your goals can at least be realistic ones, and your efforts are less likely to be futile or even counterproductive. In other words, only the disillusioned are in a position to find true Happiness.
The difference between a false Optimism and a realistic Pessimism, is that of the two, only the realistic Pessimism offers the possibility of a genuine Happiness. (Not the guarantee, mind, just the possibility.)
Moreover, how can you (and why would you) move towards Happiness, if you don’t even realize that you are Unhappy? Blue Pill thinking isn’t Happiness, nor the road to it; it’s just gullible, simplistic and ultimately self-destructive (and societally destructive) Fantasizing.
Which brings me to my final point: Unhappy and Unha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-py are not the same thing at all, so I hope no one here will misinterpret the points I am trying to make in this comment.
Conscious unhappiness is the objective awareness that “things” could be better, opening up the possibility of … actually making things better.
By contrast, Unha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-piness (in the sense that term is used in the Manosphere) is never fully Conscious, and is always about being an utterly ungrateful harridan who somehow has come to believe she can shrewishly Sh!t-Test™ her way to a Happier place … as though always tearing all Good Things down, could somehow build any Good Things up. Ultimately, Unha-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-piness is just the outward emotional expression of the profound inward Self-Hatred & Nihilism at the Dark Heart of Ideological Feminism. Nihilism as a foundation for Happiness: good luck with that, “ladies”.
So, RPL, the “unhappiness” that the Red Pill has brought you, is an objective awareness that things could be better, opening up the possibility of you actually making them better. I would suggest to you, that in fact this is grounds for a fundamental optimism on your part, rather than, say, bitterness.
Pax Christi Vobiscum omnes (ツ)
Merry Christmas!
And, Dalrock: thank you for this blog.
Merry Christmas to you all.
As Christmas 2015 winds down I am grateful to say “MERRY CHRISTMAS Dalrock.” You are changing lives, and lest we forget the reason for the season:
Joseph also went up from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to Judea, to Bethlehem the town of David, because he belonged to the house and line of David. 5 He went there to register with Mary, who was pledged to be married to him and was expecting a child. 6 While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born, 7 and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no guest room available for them.
8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”
13 Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,
14 “Glory to God in the highest heaven,
and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”
15 When the angels had left them and gone into heaven, the shepherds said to one another, “Let’s go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has happened, which the Lord has told us about.”
16 So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby, who was lying in the manger. 17 When they had seen him, they spread the word concerning what had been told them about this child, 18 and all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. 19 But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart.
Merry Christmas, everyone.
I’d wish you all a Merry Christmas, but Christmas is over now. So, have a happy New Year!
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“I wish the ring had never come to me…I wish none of this had happened”
“So do all who live to see such times..but that is not theirs to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”
Jim Oglethorpe @ December 25, 2015 at 12:40 pm
“Vox seems to forget the Mercy part, fly through the Truth part, and screech headfirst into the Justice part.”
We serve a God of both Mercy and Justice. Fools like you keep treating Christian mercy as weakness so what do you expect?
If you think Vox Day is too cruel to be Christian then you obviously haven’t read half of the New Testament. Start with Ananias & Saphira and finish with Judgment Day, and then you’ll be much more comfortable with Vox’s rhetoric.
“Have a blessed Christmas.”
“…while I try to twist you against each other.” Finished it for you.
@Jim Oglethorpe
God calls for us to be proper stewards of our faith, family, and culture.
Unfortunately due to the actions of Christians such as yourself we have yielded on nearly every issue (divorce, gay marriage, sexual immorality, abortion) that the Church should be shouting at the top of their lungs that this is dead wrong. Furthermore the church should be removing this evil from within the Body of Christ.
If you can’t handle some heated rhetoric lobbed at the other side, how do you plan to resist the left? Frankly speaking, if you are not going to do something about the problem (which it looks like you won’t) then have the common courtesy to shut up and stay silent when one comes along who will.
Speaking only for myself. As a guy who is not into sci-fi, not a right winger (and, let’s face it, there are very few men who are right of Vox Day) and not a Christian, I get asked the same thing.
In this cucked-out world, it’s nice to see someone who dares to stand for something. Vox sticks the right pigs. Plus, like the author of Dalrock, Vox Day is a helluva good writer, and he is funny as heck to boot. These are all really good qualities.
Boxer
Gunner Q said [December 26, 2015 at 11:49 am]:
Justice without Mercy is Heartless.
Mercy without Justice is Spineless.
@GunnerQ and @HamOnRye
You seem to have me confused with some weak-kneed kumbaya churchian or modern day “welcoming and affirming” Christian-Unitarian. I can assure you I am not. I am an orthodox, believing Roman Catholic who has been working hard to teach the Church’s positions on the very issues you mention: divorce, gay marriage, sexual immorality, abortion, and to bring about change in the world on those issues. I’m the guy at the party who speaks up when the liberal “Christians” offer mea culpas for the Crusades, and I explain why the Crusades were not only right and necessary, but also theologically sound endeavors. I am not the guy you are trying to say I am.
That being said, it is clear that neither you (plural) or Vox have a grounding in the rest of Christian teaching and thought… at least the critical period from the period right after the writing of the final books of the New Testament (beginning with Apostolic Fathers like Clement, Polycarp, and Ignatius of Antioch) through the Counter Reformation. The Church has an amazingly rich and deep history of teaching on some of the very matters challenging our world today. Remember, this is not the first time that heathen hoards have brandished their swords at the gates of Christendom.
You’ll note, above, the one direct and specific thing I mentioned about Vox is his ongoing support for Anders Breivik. This support alone is enough to make me discount any of Vox’s other writings when it comes to Christianity. Vox is an entertaining character who enjoys playing the villain. He’s apparently a talented game developer, sci-fi writer and publisher. He’s a noted right-of-right conservative and a deep thinker, albeit not a great debater, because he resorts to name calling and agro-debate when he doesn’t get his way or feel like expounding on his points. But one thing he is most certainly not is an orthodox Christian, in the historical, 2000-year sense of the term.
I challenge you, and Vox, to read the New Testament and the writings of the Early Church Fathers, particularly those taught by the Apostles, and also to read the writings of Thomas Aquinas. Read church thought and teaching on the matters of war and killing, just war theory, the taking of innocent life, and what the role of a Christian may be in life and death matters. Then, come back and explain to me how someone could be a believing, orthodox Christian and support Anders Breivik and say that what he did was theologically sound.
Merry Christmas! Thank you, Dalrock, for your sacrifice of time and emotional effort. And, as have others above, I also thank the commenters for their opposing views and contributions.
May God bless and guide us as he sees fit.
Merry Christmas to all!
I am going a bit silent for now. I may come back with another name. Debating my approach to all this social media stuff.
hit me up if you get bored, under your pseudonym…
xerofrog at g mail 🙂
Peace, bro!
Boxer
@Jim Oglethorpe
“You seem to have me confused”
Do I? You are asking for two people who are actively trying to resist the left and its push against culture, it attack on Christianity, and is to dissociate from one another. You are creating division and sowing dissension. And why? Because you don’t like that Vox’s plays the same rhetorical games that the left does. Furthermore if you think Vox is wrong, trying to isolate him and cut him off from support is not going to change his views.
“You’ll note, above, the one direct and specific thing I mentioned about Vox is his ongoing support for Anders Breivik”
I would love for you to point where Vox or myself actually “support” Anders Breivik? I have yet to see that. Observing that Anders Breivik is the by-product of European elite’s lack of long term thinking is not support.
“Remember, this is not the first time that heathen hoards have brandished their swords at the gates of Christendom.”
Again I say you are wrong. The heathen hordes are not at the gates, they have blown past the gates and now occupy the church. I live here in Houston, have attended well over a dozen churches and not a single one will take a firm stance against divorce.
For the record I am not asking you to agree with Vox, share his politics. Nor do you have to like him, or myself. But stop taking verbal pot shots at people who are not actively trying to harm you.
@Jim Oglethorpe
I am an orthodox, believing Roman Catholic who has been working hard to teach the Church’s positions on the very issues you mention: divorce, gay marriage, sexual immorality, abortion, and to bring about change in the world on those issues.
The Church has an amazingly rich and deep history of teaching on some of the very matters challenging our world today.
With respect to the issues you claim your church has worked to change, it’s true, your church is a change agent in those areas but not in the way you think, because your church literally helped create those problems by violating God’s Word.
See my comment here with respect to what the church has done to help bring about divorce, gay marriage, sexual immorality, abortion and above all, to sow the seeds of feminism. All in the church’s quest to become a large, powerful, monolithic organization. Yes, I am quite familiar with the history of the church, just as I’m quite sure you are not.
You encourage us to read the New Testament. (I’m not Vox, and while I agree with Vox I’m one of those perhaps a bit to the right of him, probably due to my military background) Perhaps you should start with a study of Romans 4;15 and 5:13. Paraphrased, those two passages say ‘where there is no Law (speaking of the Law of Moses) there is no transgression and sin is not imputed.’ Then you should take a look at Deuteronomy 4:2 which is a command not to add to nor subtract from the Law.
While your church officially claims there is to be no divorce between two confessed believers, it maintains a system to declare they were never married (annulment) instead, reinforcing the ancient claim that the church has authority over marriage contrary to God’s Word at Genesis 2:24 where the authority was given to the *man* to initiate marriage. I know a few Catholics who have had their marriages annulled and the last one (about 5 years ago) it cost her $4500 to get the annulment so she could marry her boyfriend she’d been committing adultery with for the last 2 years of her marriage. In fact, I’m convinced her last child was not her husband’s child and that’s what drove the annulment and divorce. But, the paperwork was done and she had her marriage properly annulled, got divorced, married her boyfriend and gets to take communion. Yes!!! That’s a win for team woman!
But, of course, you’ll be offended by that. So be it. Let God be true and every man a liar. He said I am God, who changeth not. My ways are not your ways, oh man. But you don’t get that. You cling to the traditions of men (bishops and popes) rather than God’s Word. And when there is a conflict between your church tradition and God’s Word, you are trained to accept tradition over God’s Word. Read Matthew 23 and insert your name in place of the Pharisees and you’ll get a good idea of how God feels about your attitude.
Jim Oglethorpe @7:44 pm:
“That being said, it is clear that neither you (plural) or Vox have a grounding in the rest of Christian teaching and thought… at least the critical period from the period right after the writing of the final books of the New Testament”
First you claimed Vox Day wasn’t “our” kind of Christian. Now you’re claiming he and we aren’t “your” kind of Christian. You’re moving the goalposts.
Dalrock’s is a Protestant blog. Nobody here cares if you’re a Roman Catholic in good standing or if our beliefs contradict early (or current) Vatican teachings. Nobody here “is an orthodox Christian, in the historical, 2000-year sense of the term.” I could not care less that we might not be following your admittedly non-Biblical standard of what constitutes good behavior.
I do care that you chose Christmas Day of all the days of 2015 to foment discord between Christian allies. How do the British say? Pass off.
The main “tells” were that he posted this issue in the “Merry Christmas” thread & he’s obviously never read anything Vox has posted about Breivik. (Pretty easy to toss it into the search function: http://voxday.blogspot.com/search?q=Breivik ) Stating that a mass murder spree was hyper-targeted and the opening salvo of a possible War must hurt the feelings of a bleeding heart, but you’re a fool if you can’t see his point. But I think we’ve already established that about “Jim” here.
>Then, come back and explain to me how someone could be a believing, orthodox Christian and support Anders Breivik and say that what he did was theologically sound.
The wages of Sin are Death, and those killed were the willing servants of the Enemy. If killing the Muslims during the Crusades to defend Christendom is theologically sound, so too is killing Cultural Marxists in defense of Christendom. Perhaps even moreso, since while Muslims are at least trying to serve God, Cultural Marxists (or at least their leadership) are literally worshiping Satan and deliberately acting to further his cause.
@GunnerQ I posted on this Christmas message because I noticed that Dal quoted Vox, unlike you, I think associating with VD is a mistake for a Christian.
@GunnerQ We’re talking about what qualifies as justified killing in the eyes of God. There are two ways to decide: looking at scripture and what the Christian Church has taught for 2,000 years on the subject, or just you and your bible. If God intended the latter, He must be ok with 100,000 different interpretations, denominations and answers, despite His plea that the Church be one. Are you really so anti-Catholic (or “Vatican” as you put it) that if you didn’t know the answer based on Scripture alone (or if there were two different ways to read something), you wouldn’t look through what the most learned and holy Christian thinkers throughout history have had to say on the subject? What about those who sat at the feet of the Apostles and were discipled by them wrote? You know, just in case they learned a few extra things from John or Peter?
Dear Jphn not piss off the Vox. He’s not the meanest in his family: Spacebunny is. (She’s making him drink… juice. Pray that Vox has fortitude).
And the Romans are in error, if you want a fight I’m easy to find.
To the crew: happiness for the season — if you follow seasons and times, Christmas does not end until Epiphany, or does not start until later for the orthodox.
Dalrock,
Hope you, your family, and neighbors weathered the storm safely. This seems to have hit much too close to home:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/43-dead-states-week-devastating-tornadoes-flooding-storms/story?id=35961987
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/27/at-least-11-killed-as-tornado-outbreak-ravages-parts-north-texas.html
Jim: you are wrong to consider that the Magisterium can protect you from heresy. I suggest you go to Mundabor, for he discusses the heresy within the College of Cardinals. Moreover, it is God who trains our hands for battle.
If you think John Brown is a hero, then Andres is cut from the same cloth. Dalrock (hope you and the family and the others of the crew from Texas and the Southern USA are OK) is a prot. I don’t go to Mundabor and say that the Pope is the Antichrist, though this one is acting very much like an antichrist. It is called knowing the rules of the place.
Repent. Confess if it is needful.
@ pukeko60 [December 28, 2015 at 2:12 pm]:
I would guess off-hand that the non-Chrisitian, Protestant Christian, and Orthodox Christian commenters & lurkers here @ Dalrock’s blog probably couldn’t give a rat’s patoot about any of this, but for those adhering to the “perspective” that is un-named in that list there, maybe it might be worth noting the existence of people who disagree with Mundabor, generally, and, ah, fundamentally.
Pax Christi Vobiscum. (ツ)
@pukeko60 – my intention in bringing up the Church fathers and 2000 years of Christendom was NOT to turn this into a Protestant vs. Christian fight. My purpose was to show that that Christian notion of Just War, of who is considered an “innocent,” and of when someone can kill, have all been debated and discussed over and over again for 20 centuries. Whether or not you believe in the teaching authority of the Catholic Church, I think you should put SOME weight into the thought and writing of the greatest minds Christendom had to offer between the times of John the Evangelist and Martin Luther. Otherwise you are missing 15 centuries of Christian thought, including deep, deep theological writings by those who learned their faith DIRECTLY from the Apostles.
If Dalrock, who I respect immensely, doesn’t want commenters to mention anything from the Catholic or Orthodox traditions, he should say so. Until then, I am under the assumption that this is a Christian blog, but that it does not make a distinction or prohibition on commenting among the various branches of Christianity, including Catholicism, Orthodox, Fundamentalism, Mainline Protestantism, Evangelical Protestantism, etc.
For my final comment, I would suggest that you read Matthew 16:13-20 and try to understand what the phrase “keys to the kingdom” meant to Jews and others in the middle east at the time of Jesus. It’s a powerful phrase that packs a LOT of meaning into four words.
A Merry Christmas to you Dalrock and to all the regular posters here at this blog.
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It is good you are stopping Jim. You clearly have not read much of Vox Day’s stuff. He never says “Brevick is/was good.” He merely noted that suppressing desires leads to them coming out in harmful ways.
Not sure what is wrong about that, but you may have an issue with Jesus too if you read things like the Book of Revelation, or even St. Paul when he talked in a few places about those who wronged him. You milquetoast Christianity is repulsive.
America thrives on texts; whether OT, NT or The Declaration of Independence and the much amended Constitution: these are then opened up to interpretation by Pastors would-be Pastors and The Judiciary. No such sophistry is required or indulged in in Great Britain, partly because we do not have a constitution, have never been independent (at least not since the reign of William the Bastard) and prefer not to delve too closely into the Bible, for doing so tends to turn one into a very obsessed and angry person – someone like Richard Dawkins. Belief is a private matter and mentioning ones lack of it is rather like pointing out that someone’s fly’s are open. A bit embarrassing really. God after all is an Englishman.
It is thus, hardly surprising, that Christmas in England is rather different not withstanding the avowed same religion as that in the United States. To begin with, not being saddled with Thanksgiving we can start Xmas from at least as early as Remembrance Day (11th November) or Guy Fawkes Day (5th November) and many shops regard the August Bank Holiday (30th August) as the official start of the festive season. May I also add that although no one would ever dream of doing so were one to find that the local Court House or Town Hall had a crib for the baby Jesus this would not be the sign for the Civil Liberties Union (if we have one, which I doubt) to be petitioning for an injunction – this after all is a Christian country – a theocracy – where through the personage of the Archbishop, our Head of State has the approval and imprimatur of God himself – which is surely better than a 5-4 decision on the basis of defective voting slips. On Christmas Eve the God-free people of this country suddenly morph into Christians queuing longer for Midnight Mass than for the new Star Wars – my sister said she arrived at the Cathedral one hour and ten minutes early so as to secure a pew. On Xmas Day The Queen addresses the nation at 3pm (I don’t believe your President does that). Everyone tunes in. I have to say she has the remarkable ability, to give the impression that she is talking to you personally, as if she is an aged well-healed much traveled and worldly-wise Aunt and you a favourite Nephew. The 26th December is Boxing Day which is another public holiday but the fun is not yet over as on the 31st December the New Year’s Honours are duly announced (I don’t believe you have that either) where the great and the good are awarded gongs (as we call them ) Knighhoods for aging thespians Damehoods for those women who have managed to break through the glass-ceiling (ie used their pussy-pass) and then screwed everything up at The Home Office and lesser awards for the hoi-polloi. Honourary Awards are also awarded often to Americans – some years – especially if they began life in as British subjects.
One has a sense of foreboding for 2016 and thus I am not convinced that the Queen’s exhortation that we should love each other a bit more will prove very practical. A Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to all Dalrockians.
… and I forgot to mention The Panto – something else you don’t have. Oh yes you do, oh no you don’t – and so on.
Happy New Year from East EU, Dalrock&Comrades.