The heartache of entitlement.

Novaseeker notes that Wendy Griffith is well above average in attractiveness for women her age, and speculates that she really isn’t serious about finding a husband:

Griffith is well, well above average looking for her age. She’s in the top 5-10% of women in their mid 50s, easily. That in and of itself makes her advice almost completely useless for the average woman of 53, never mind the average woman of 43 or even 35…

Which leads me to my final point. I doubt that she is genuinely serious about getting married. Self-deception is a powerful thing, but almost all women at 53 know the score when it comes to the marketplace they’re in, and they either deal with it realistically or, in many cases, just abstain because they don’t like the market. I am guessing that Griffith is doing the “soft” version of the latter — not really very serious about finding a husband (I mean how can she be with the approach she is taking at 53), but selling average women the fantasy that they, too, can find a superlative, fantastic man themselves if they are never married at 53. She can’t be serious, really — it’s just unfortunate that so many *other* women are so gullible…

I think there must be some truth to this.  However, it is important to remember that from Griffith’s point of view the men she is rejecting don’t matter.  What matters to Griffith are the men who are rejecting her.

There is an old Game maxim that says whenever you meet an incredibly hot woman, remember that somewhere there is a man who is tired of her crap. The intent of the maxim is to prevent pedestalization, but I think it also should help us put ourselves in Griffith’s shoes.  Sure she is attractive.  But the men she finds attractive are rejecting her, and this is crushing.  This is what her book is all about.  Griffith cleverly titled her book with the harlot’s refrain:

Never Settle!

But what she is really saying is:

Never settle for the men who are rejecting you!

Yes, this is flat out nuts.  But it really is the message of the book.  From the description page at CBN:

Wendy Griffith had often preached to other women about being a prize to be won, but did not practice it. She didn’t realize her true value in Christ, and became the “beggar” in a year-long romance, begging for a few scraps of love. When her romance ended, she was devastated. Through her tears, God showed her that she had settled for emotional “crumbs.” She learned that God had so much more for her, (Eph. 3:20) and that she was a pearl of great price.

Now she shares her past heartache and experiences, defining what real love is and showing how you can guard your heart by recognizing the counterfeit. God’s love for you is extravagant and you shouldn’t settle for emotional crumbs. You are a prize to be won.

The book centers around a man she calls Michael, the one that got away.  Michael was one among many men who responded to a segment Griffith did complaining that Christian men aren’t asking single women like her out:

Michael clearly stood out from the rest of the “interesting” inquiries I had received in response to my no-nonsense interview in which I had urged men to man up and not be afraid to ask women out!

Michael lived in another city, but immediately began courting her extravagantly.  He would fly in drive for several hours every weekend and stay at a hotel to wine and dine her.  Griffith loved the attention, but wasn’t that into him.  As a result, she explains that she treated him coldly during the opening months of their courtship, especially when she was working and on the road.  However, at some point Griffith decided that Michael had “unlocked her heart”, something a man hadn’t accomplished for decades (since her college boyfriend).  But at this point the damage was already done;  Michael was in love with her, but didn’t think it would be wise to marry her.  Griffith was heartbroken when Michael explained this, and set out to change his mind by no longer being cold and bitchy.  But after a few months of not being cold and bitchy Michael still wasn’t convinced.  Griffith’s take away from this experience was that if Michael was really the one, he would not have grown hesitant to marry her just because she treated him badly while he pulled out all of the stops to win her over.  Her mistake was not the months she spent treating this one in a thousand man badly;  her mistake was the months she spent trying to make it up to him.  This is the thesis of her book.  Griffith had forgotten that she was the prize to be won, that she was the pearl of great price.  The book is a vow never to make that mistake again, and to warn younger women not to fall into the same trap.

The story of her being worth dinner and desert also stems from a rejection of sorts, by a man she clearly felt was beneath her:

A few years ago, I was asked out by a college professor whom I assumed had a good-paying job, although the jalopy he drove and his sloppy appearance said otherwise. But it had been an embarrassingly long time since my last date, and I was determined to give this guy a chance. On our first date, he took me to a classy steakhouse, where we both enjoyed top-of-the-line steaks surrounded by an elegant atmosphere.

On our second date, we had pizza, and on our third date, we were at a cute little fish shack by the beach when this guy suddenly brought up the bill. “I think we should split the check,”…

…This man told me that I was extravagant and not a good steward of other people’s money, namely his. He actually made me cry (not in front of him, but later)! I was so upset at being called extravagant simply because I had expected him to treat me like a lady…

The very title of the book comes from the time she asked a man she was attracted to out to dinner, and he politely declined:

I had been in Florida covering Terri Schiavo’s rigth-to-life case, one of the biggest stories of 2005… I asked a guy out who was closely involved with the story and with whom I’d been working all day if he’d like to go out to dinner. He was my age, handsome and a single Christian like I was, and after a whirl-wind day of interviews and a few laughs, I rationalized that it would be fine to ask him to have dinner with me instead of dining alone. His response was not what I had been expecting: “I have to go to the gym.”

I felt sick! It was as if someone had punched me in the stomach… Discouraged and a little mad at myself, I drove back to the hotel alone, when suddenly I heard the unmistakable voice of the Lord in my spirit. He whispered so clearly to me, Wendy, you are a prize to be won!

I knew the Lord’s voice, and I knew that He was speaking to me about my value. I didn’t need to be the one pursuing in a relationship or running around like a chicken with my head cut off, looking for love in all the wrong places. God has my man, and that man is going to recognize me as his prize! And the same goes for you.

Unfortunately, I have had to learn this lesson the hard way.

Pearl of Great Price

Ladies, the Lord wants you to know that you are a pearl of great price, a treasure worth pursuing and protecting. You are worth fighting for…

 

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174 Responses to The heartache of entitlement.

  1. earlthomas786 says:

    I felt sick! It was as if someone had punched me in the stomach… Discouraged and a little mad at myself, I drove back to the hotel alone, when suddenly I heard the unmistakable voice of the Lord in my spirit. He whispered so clearly to me, Wendy, you are a prize to be won!

    The voice of the Lord in her spirit. I guess she didn’t test that spirit. You know the serpent tried to convince Eve that she would be like God.

    I knew the Lord’s voice, and I knew that He was speaking to me about my value. I didn’t need to be the one pursuing in a relationship or running around like a chicken with my head cut off, looking for love in all the wrong places.

    And this is why men and women aren’t and won’t ever be equal in this context. One rejection and she’s never going to do it again. Some men get rejected multiple times a day/week/month and keep at it. That’s the way it works…man is the pursuer and the woman is the chooser.

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  3. feministhater says:

    God has my man, and that man is going to recognize me as his prize! And the same goes for you.

    I don’t think he does. This women and those that believe like her and destined to play out this life under a heavy delusion. I fear nothing can break it.

    Discouraged and a little mad at myself, I drove back to the hotel alone, when suddenly I heard the unmistakable voice of the Lord in my spirit. He whispered so clearly to me, Wendy, you are a prize to be won!

    Okay, I’ve never, ever heard the Lord, nor felt his spirit, I’ve had zero contact with him one way or the other so would the gentlemen who have like to chime in here. Does God go out of his way to whisper sweet nothings into your ears or not?

  4. Frank K says:

    @earl, that was the first thing to cross my mind: that wasn’t the Lord whispering in her ear. He never tells us to be proud or haughty. That was most definitely the serpent.

  5. feministhater says:

    He was my age, handsome and a single Christian like I was, and after a whirl-wind day of interviews and a few laughs, I rationalized that it would be fine to ask him to have dinner with me instead of dining alone. His response was not what I had been expecting: “I have to go to the gym.”

    The bitter sting of rejection… for such a ‘pearl’ it must have been so devastating..

  6. Frank K says:

    Okay, I’ve never, ever heard the Lord, nor felt his spirit, I’ve had zero contact with him one way or the other so would the gentlemen who have like to chime in here. Does God go out of his way to whisper sweet nothings into your ears or not?

    Sweet nothings? Nope. But he sure has scolded me out a few times.

  7. feministhater says:

    He was my age, handsome and a single Christian..

    Probably rich too and thus in demand. He was not going to settle with an old maid now was he. Duh…

  8. feministhater says:

    Sweet nothings? Nope. But he sure has scolded me out a few times.

    Hey man, I hear you. I wish I could hear him even if he were to scold the crappola out of me. Scaring me nine ways from Sunday. I need it.

  9. Frank K says:

    The bitter sting of rejection… for such a ‘pearl’ it must have been so devastating..

    Indeed … if you were to stand out on a busy street corners and started handing out $100 bills, a line would quickly form. Perhaps she overrates herself? More of a cubic zirconia than a pearl. Flashy, but when you look close you realize it’s common and of little worth

  10. Novaseeker says:

    Well that’s interesting.

    She really is utterly delusional, isn’t she? Not only does she feel entitled, but she also somehow seems to think that at 53 a Prince Charming is going to land in her lap and stay with her no matter how she treats him, because she is a Pearl.

    Well, there’s something to be said for that level of delusion, I suppose.

  11. earlthomas786 says:

    He never tells us to be proud or haughty. That was most definitely the serpent.

    It’s certainly not a humble statement.

    It was a weak moment for her…she probably was heartbroken. The serpent can take advantage of that situation.

    Look no further than when Jesus came out of the desert after fasting for 40 days and was tempted. That’s the mindset we should have in our weakest moments. Not this ‘you are the prize’ crap.

  12. Anoymous Reader says:

    Well, there’s something to be said for that level of delusion, I suppose.

    Yes, there is, because it means she still has her self esteem, and will never be a doormat.

  13. earlthomas786 says:

    Well, there’s something to be said for that level of delusion, I suppose.

    When you hear it from the mouth of a man you often think he’s a high level BSer…

    When a woman spouts that delusion she’ll often hear nothing but ‘you go grlll’ ‘you are so beautiful and strong’ from other empowered and orbiters. But there will be some men whose BS meter starts pinging.

  14. Anonymous Reader says:

    This woman and her books / lectures – gift that keeps on giving. Reading about the ones that got away reminds me of the old joke with the punchline: “I sent you a helicopter, a boat and a raft!”.

    GIven the level of self-esteem she has, those men were fortunate to get away.

  15. Oscar says:

    “God has my man, and that man is going to recognize me as his prize!”

    She’ll still be mumbling this mantra in the nursing home.

  16. Damn Crackers says:

    “A few years ago, I was asked out by a college professor whom I assumed had a good-paying job, although the jalopy he drove and his sloppy appearance said otherwise.”

    Umm…that’s the mark of a successful professor – unconspicuous consumption. Anyone on the faculty is immediately suspect of a fellow colleague who drives nice sports cars and wears flashy suits.

  17. Cane Caldo says:

    I felt sick! It was as if someone had punched me in the stomach… Discouraged and a little mad at myself, I drove back to the hotel alone, when suddenly I heard the unmistakable voice of the Lord in my spirit. He whispered so clearly to me, Wendy, you are a prize to be won!

    I knew the Lord’s voice, and I knew that He was speaking to me about my value.

    Wow! Just like when God spoke to Abrahm, Moses, and Paul!

  18. earlthomas786 says:

    God has my man, and that man is going to recognize me as his prize!

    Perhaps she should join the church of Griffithanity and she’ll find the worthy man of her dreams.

  19. john03063 says:

    “the men she is rejecting don’t matter. What matters to Griffith is the men who are rejecting her”… Sounds like the mindset of women of all ages – not just the old ones…

  20. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Pity the man who does marry her.

    Yes, she might well marry a Very Thirsty Beta. But after all her buildup, she’ll have to hype him to the public as the Greatest and Most Godly Christian Alpha Leader on Earth.

    She’ll parade him before the 700 Club audience, expounding on all his great qualities and why he was worth the wait. He’ll sit silently beside her, soft and puffy, a sick smile on his pasty face.

    She’ll spend several years desperately trying to convince herself and her readers about his extraordinary qualities. Until, finally, she seeks holy empowerment through a Godly divorce.

  21. Opus says:

    That voice she hears sounds to me more like Satan’s (I know his modus operandi) not that I believe a word she says – that crap about the college professor to begin with. Meanwhile my divorcing friend’s wife who is I think in her mid fifties has to my utter surprise persuaded a man who seems to have his stuff together to become an item with her. Knock me down with a feather for I hardly find her attractive – you see, there is still hope for Ms Griffith.

  22. anonymous_ng says:

    She reminds me of the discussion we had about Lolo Jones, and Tim Tebow, they have so much invested in their Christian virginity, that there is a vanishingly small chance they will meet someone good enough.

    Griffith seems to be just another one of that group, but since she isn’t obviously trumpeting her virginity, it’s undoubtedly long gone.

    I dated(slept with) a woman shortly after filing the divorce papers who was in her words desperately looking for a husband. That made our time together strange since I was very upfront about just getting out of marriage.

    She had a lot going for her, for a man; two undergraduate degrees, working on an MBA, professionally successful, owned a home in a wealthy suburb, part-time yoga instructor.

    Despite all of that, and in her words having had offers, she was still single, and desperately looking for a husband. We’re still friends on FB, and almost ten years later, she is still desperately seeking a husband. You would think she’d figure it out, but at her age, kids aren’t possible, and guys her age can do better, so it’s dorky IT guy who is glad for the scraps, or a guy in his 60s.

    I suspect ten years from now, she’s move from little dogs to cats.

  23. This hamster would eat Godzilla as an hors d’oeuvre. Michael sounds like he stumbled into Game with her and she didn’t like her own response to the brush off, and wrote a book out rationalizing her self-hatred. She want’s to maintain hand while stoking hypergamy (while dealing with peri-menopause). What a wreck.

  24. She’s fumbled her humble.

  25. Okay, I’ve never, ever heard the Lord, nor felt his spirit, I’ve had zero contact with him one way or the other so would the gentlemen who have like to chime in here. Does God go out of his way to whisper sweet nothings into your ears or not?

    He’s too busy loving me by kicking me squarely in the nuts.

  26. earlthomas786 says:

    Michael sounds like he stumbled into Game with her and she didn’t like her own response to the brush off, and wrote a book out rationalizing her self-hatred.

    I wonder if ‘unlocking her heart’ means what I think it means.

  27. feministhater says:

    She reminds me of the discussion we had about Lolo Jones, and Tim Tebow, they have so much invested in their Christian virginity, that there is a vanishingly small chance they will meet someone good enough.

    I don’t even think it’s about meeting someone ‘good enough’. When you’re single like that for so long and you have rather limited social experience when it comes to dealing with another person in your personal space day in and day out, as in the case of marriage or an LTR, it can become almost impossible to break from that. I know because I’m in the same boat. Being single for too long can do heavy damage to ones social skills and ability to compromise with another human being.

    In Wendy’s case, she really is over-valuing herself and expecting God to come down and give her a so called ‘worthy’ husband and she’s over the age of 53….. It’s a real delusion and not just a social problem for her. If it’s a con, she’s pulled it off rather well and made bank off of it too. Kudos for that at least.

  28. Tarl says:

    “He would fly in every weekend and stay at a hotel to wine and dine her.”

    I’m actually surprised this obviously beta, lack of abundance mindset idiot didn’t marry her. He’s got that kind of money and he can’t get laid in his home town?

  29. Hey man, I hear you. I wish I could hear him even if he were to scold the crappola out of me. Scaring me nine ways from Sunday. I need it.

    Scariest time of my life was when I didn’t feel His presence at all. Then my miracle son (the one we’d been trying for going on a decade) was still-born. That’s suddenly when I felt God’s loving presence and comfort.

  30. The “pearl of great price” at the burning bush.

    “But these are Gucci, and I don’t want to get sand in my pedicure!”

  31. David says:

    Michael clearly stood out from the rest of the “interesting” inquiries I had received in response to my no-nonsense interview in which I had urged men to man up and not be afraid to ask women out!

    Afraid? Maybe the men she likes have better options than spending $120 just for 90 minutes of her company, where she retains the option of stringing them along.

  32. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Transgender “woman” beats other women in power-lifting competition: https://sports.yahoo.com/transgender-weightlifter-wins-silver-medal-social-media-abuse-161031998.html

    So a man (claiming to be a woman) beats most of the women contestants at power-lifting. What’s surprising is that he only came in second.

    Check out the photo. People are truly insane if they believe that … person … is a woman.

  33. David says:

    On our second date, we had pizza, and on our third date, we were at a cute little fish shack by the beach when this guy suddenly brought up the bill. “I think we should split the check,”…

    …This man told me that I was extravagant and not a good steward of other people’s money, namely his.

    This man is a minor hero. At least he cut his losses.

    But he is a beta for taking her to dinner at all. No significant money spent before sex is a basic Game rule.

  34. I had been in Florida covering Terri Schiavo’s right-to-life case, one of the biggest stories of 2005…
    At this time she would have been in her early 40’s.

    He was my age, handsome and a single Christian like I was,
    So he’s in his early 40’s and handsome enough for her majesty the Queen. That must be really effing handsome.

    I rationalized that it would be fine to ask him to have dinner with me instead of dining alone.
    Which he probably took to mean, “Hey, why don’t you buy me dinner tonight? I might let you if you beg me just the right way.”

    His response was not what I had been expecting: “I have to go to the gym.”
    After which he was going to grab a quick shower and then go bang one of the 25 yo girl reporters he’d met, or maybe the 21 yo front desk girl at his hotel.

    Also, HA HA HA you dumb stuck-up b#$%^!

    This woman is not a total nutter, but it’s close. She at least knows that if she ever did get married then she’s going to lose her gig as the good girl waiting (and waiting and waiting) to get married. You see, Jesus told her to wait so she can marry Him when He comes back, that is if he can meet her standards.

  35. anonymous_ng says:

    @feministhater, a buddy of mine divorced and was trolling the girl catalog (match.com). He’s in great shape for a man half his age which means he’s in exceptional shape for his age. The only women who were equally in shape were never married/no kids.

    He wondered frequently how they thought they were going to give up their jet setting vagabond ways to settle down in the suburbs with a divorced man with a daughter.

    So, I agree with you, that’s a huge problem especially for those two as they are both wealthy enough to live well on their own. It would be different if they were still living in their mid-thirties like most people do in their twenties.

  36. David says:

    I guarantee that the men she is attracted to are specifically NOT the ones who spent money on her upfront.

  37. Scott says:

    Man I must get out more and consume more pop Christianity. Its very entertaining.

  38. Scott says:

    Okay, I’ve never, ever heard the Lord, nor felt his spirit, I’ve had zero contact with him one way or the other so would the gentlemen who have like to chime in here. Does God go out of his way to whisper sweet nothings into your ears or not?

    We call this psychosis in my profession.

  39. @Red Pill Latecomer

    Have you seen the woman who won?

  40. earlthomas786 says:

    Oof…I’d question the validity of that female too.

  41. Boxer says:

    Okay, I’ve never, ever heard the Lord, nor felt his spirit, I’ve had zero contact with him one way or the other so would the gentlemen who have like to chime in here. Does God go out of his way to whisper sweet nothings into your ears or not?

    We call this psychosis in my profession.

    Right. Even if God does exist, why would he be constantly appearing to micromanage these wimminz’ lives?

    If these wimminz had any faith, they’d accept that He inspired people to write books, full of good advice. If they want to know his will, just sit down and read. Take the text at face value. It will tell you things you often won’t want to hear. It will set you to difficult tasks.

    You wimminz hate these books because you know they require change. You might not be able to bang strangers, while drunk, in the public toilet of the nightclub you like to go to. You might not be able to steal from your employer, or cheat the welfare agency, or any number of other things. You might actually be required to marry your babydaddy, and let him lead the household.

    It’s just so much easier to pretend to have a personal revelation from the Divine Monarch Himself whenever the rules become too inconvenient.

  42. Boxer says:

    Have you seen the woman who won?

    9/10 – would bang

  43. Oscar says:

    @ Earl & Kentucky Headhunter

    That’s the super heavyweight class for ya. There is no upper weight limit, so they basically eat and lift, and not much else, because even if they gain tons of fat, they’re still gaining muscle, and that means they can lift more weight.

    Lower weight classes actually have upper limits, so they often have to cut weight to compete.

  44. Gunner Q says:

    “A few years ago, I was asked out by a college professor whom I assumed had a good-paying job, although the jalopy he drove and his sloppy appearance said otherwise.”

    If there’s chalk on his clothes then that means math. Wrinkly clothes means physics. If he stinks then either biochemistry or sociology. If you had to ride in the backseat of his jalopy because his electronics took up the front seat then engineering or comp sci.

  45. Tim Tebow would be a fool to be dating anyone right now in the midst of the #METOO insanity, but even without that, what’s the cost/benefit ratio look like? Unless he’s just really hankering to start a family, seems like a woman would only be a drag on him.

    Frankly, the cost/benefit to any man with even marginal wealth is looking bad in the current environment.

  46. BillyS says:

    I know slamming some aspects of Christianity is fun sport here, even from many claiming to follow that, but this is poppycock.

    I would not have survived since my divorce without God actively speaking with me. Scott can call it whatever he wants, but there is a reason the psychology profession is full of scam artists.

    I don’t appear on Christian talk shows, nor do I aspire to that. I just have an active interaction with Him that has gone on since my teens. God is real to me. I am sorry for those of you who lack that. Must be pretty miserable having a God who doesn’t care enough to talk with you.

  47. @BillyS,

    The way I can tell it’s God is that He keeps telling me to DIE (to myself) and helping me do precisely that. The you “go grrrl” self affirmation crap is the opposite of every experience I’ve had of Him. I know that He loves me because He helps me deal with the mess that I am. They give “hearing” God’s voice a bad name.

  48. CSI says:

    @earlthomas And this is why men and women aren’t and won’t ever be equal in this context. One rejection and she’s never going to do it again. Some men get rejected multiple times a day/week/month and keep at it.

    Neither men nor women like rejection, but men have to get used to it if they want any romantic success whatsoever. But even taking into account that she was think skinned from rarely experienced rejection, her reaction to a polite rejection is just over the top. Feeling like being punched in the stomach? This hypersensitivity to criticism and rejection sounds like Borderline Personality Disorder or something similar.

  49. Geoarrge says:

    This attitude is part of what makes normal men feel hopeless. I know what will be required of me if I expect to be a father. And it’s certainly looking like self-employment is my only realistic path to being able to support a family. That requires a level of self-discipline that most Boomer parents and extended family members, who survived on the classical industrial model of employment, don’t have a clue how to help. And on top of that, there is the knowledge that until I achieve that goal all the way, I might as well not exist as far as the typical American young woman, Christian or otherwise, is concerned, thanks to the inflated sense of self-worth being peddled to them.

  50. Days of Broken Arrows says:

    I’m going to re-phrase my comment from last time ’round because I think it’s still pertinent. According to an interview, she has never had a relationship last longer than two years. This says something — and not something good. Even college students have longer relationships.

    This is what set off alarm bells for me, and I’m guessing it’s the real reason Michael rejected her. It wasn’t really her b*tchiness at first, but her history. You can change from mean to nice, but you can’t change your past and any woman in her forties (much less fifties) who can’t sustain a relationship beyond a mere two years is a good bet for divorce.

  51. Scott says:

    BillyS-

    I have never had God provide me with specific revelation on my every day decision making, no matter how much I pray about it.

    I do find, however, that praying for wisdom and discernment helps. Usually, when I make decisions on faith, (as opposed to making them based on fear of what might happen) God provides a route to take that is better than what I had planned even in my most brilliant flashes of genius.

    For example, if I am in a rush, late for something, and I see a man stranded on the side of the road, I can make two choices. I can drive by saying to myself, “I’m in a hurry, and I could get in trouble at work, which could cause me to lose my job and then I won’t be able to provide for my wife and kids, and I know God wants me to provide for my wife and kids so I better not stop.”

    or

    “This man needs help. I should stop even though it may cost me something dear.”

    And every time I make the faith decision, it works out. (Like the meeting ends up cancelled or something).

    That’s the kind of listening I do.

    Auditory hallucinations are a symptom of several thought disorders. Its not quackery.

  52. Novaseeker says:

    But even taking into account that she was think skinned from rarely experienced rejection, her reaction to a polite rejection is just over the top. Feeling like being punched in the stomach? This hypersensitivity to criticism and rejection sounds like Borderline Personality Disorder or something similar.

    I think it’s just a reflection of the basis of her self-esteem and her attitude of entitlement. It goes something like this … I have been the prettiest or among the prettiest girl in the room since I was 15, all men are attracted to me and always have been, all men would love to be with me, and that’s because I am such a gorgeous, lovely catch. That is the basis of her entire “self esteem” in this area — yes, she would talk about her professional achievements, but truth be told in her line of work those revolve mostly around her appearance as well. Her attractiveness, her appearance, her assumption that all men find her desirable and attractive — that is the basis of her own self worth. When that fellow reporter rejected her, it wasn’t just a romantic rejection, it was something that went to the core of who she sees herself as, to the core of her own valuation of herself, to the core of her self-esteem. That is why she reacted the way she did — it was a personal insult that undermined her entire self-vision, not merely a romantic rejection.

    What Dalrock explains about her book is in perfect harmony with this, really, in terms of what her view of herself is. And to be honest it isn’t uncommon among older very attractive women — I know a few of them who are around Wendy’s age (within 3-5 years) and mostly they have the same problem: self-image and self-worth totally wrapped around being the prettiest girl in the room their whole lives, and therefore can’t adjust to getting older. It kills them mentally, really, it does.

  53. Oscar says:

    OT: this is hilarious!

    https://everydayfeminism.com/2017/12/intersectional-feminist-first-date/

    “Ten questions every intersectional feminist should ask on a first date.”

    Any man who agrees to be subjected to this insane interrogation deserves what he gets!

  54. Yet Another Commenter, Yet Another Comment ("Yac-Yac") says:

    BillyS (December 11, 2017 at 1:41 pm wrote:

    “I know slamming some aspects of Christianity is fun sport here, even from many claiming to follow that, but this is poppycock.

    I would not have survived since my divorce without God actively speaking with me. Scott can call it whatever he wants, but there is a reason the psychology profession is full of scam artists. […]”

    BillyS, I of course cannot speak for Scott, but how I read what the both of you wrote, there is no incompatibility at all.

    To my ear, it’s something like this: you [SFAICT] undoubtedly sincerely listen with your Heart to what God has to say; Wendy Griffith [SFAICT] listens for what she wants God to say.

    I strongly suspect that Scott sees the same thing in her, uh, narrative, and so he is ridiculing it, using language he knows. But, truth to tell, insofar as to all external appearances Ms. Griffith is completely divorced from reality by her inflated sense of self-worth, if Scott had been actually doing a sort of serious “long distance diagnosis” (rather than cracking a joke at her expense), he would almost certainly have described her as NPD (“Narcissistic Personality Disordered”: she does not care how high a price other people have to pay, if that’s what it takes for her insane self-image to be maintained).

    Anyway, that’s what it looks like to me.

    So, I doubt there is any reason for you to feel insulted by proxy; humility isn’t under fire, when Pride gets mocked.

    Just sayin’

    Pax Christi Vobiscum

  55. She has a grossly distorted/inflated sense of worth. The pearl of great price is salvation, not a 53 year old barren woman. There is the proverbs 31 woman, but Griffith is not a wife so she is disqualified and attempting to find consolation by co-opting another parable. But God is good because feelz, pearls, and stuff.

  56. Novaseeker says:

    Any man who agrees to be subjected to this insane interrogation deserves what he gets!

    Yeah I saw that linked at Rollo’s. The thing is the writer says she is a “queer femme” — that doesn’t sound like someone who dates men, so it sounds like a lesbian giving dating advice to straight women — which, when you look at what she wrote, makes more sense, because she doesn’t seem interested in actually dating straight men to actually, you know, succeed with that. It seems more like a lesbian lecturing straight women.

  57. earl says:

    I would not have survived since my divorce without God actively speaking with me. Scott can call it whatever he wants, but there is a reason the psychology profession is full of scam artists.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, Billy…but didn’t you mention before that your wife’s rationalization for divorce was because the Lord was speaking to her?

    We aren’t slamming those who legit have the Lord speaking to them…we are pointing out when it is clearly NOT the Lord talking to them.

  58. Dalrock says:

    Griffith explains that one of the ways God frequently talks to her is through vanity license plates. God once warned her off of a man she thought might be the one by having someone with a vanity license plate that read “redherng” cut her off in traffic.

  59. earl says:

    But even taking into account that she was think skinned from rarely experienced rejection, her reaction to a polite rejection is just over the top. Feeling like being punched in the stomach?

    Perhaps the first time an entitled doesn’t get their way in life that’s what the feeling is.

    For the rest of us who’ve dealt with rejection before, it’s meh.

  60. Oscar says:

    @ Novaseeker says:
    December 11, 2017 at 2:20 pm

    “Her attractiveness, her appearance, her assumption that all men find her desirable and attractive — that is the basis of her own self worth…
    self-image and self-worth totally wrapped around being the prettiest girl in the room their whole lives, and therefore can’t adjust to getting older. It kills them mentally, really, it does.”

    We see that all the time with actresses who achieve stardom playing sex kitten roles, then see their careers fade along with their beauty. Remember Ashley Judd’s insane rant at the “Women’s March”? That’s exactly what you described.

  61. feministhater says:

    God once warned her off of a man she thought might be the one by having someone with a vanity license plate that read “redherng” cut her off in traffic.

    Okay, I’m sorry but that is hilarious! This broad…..

  62. Farm Boy says:

    Oof…I’d question the validity of that female too.

    What female would have non-matching socks?

  63. feministhater says:

    Come on Farm Boy, you know you want some of that!

  64. Farm Boy says:

    9/10 – would bang

    Worth the weight

  65. feministhater says:

    Worth the weight

    In gold plated Tungsten bars, totally! Looks like she could snap a 12 ton crane.

  66. Random Angeleno says:

    Speaking of her and the professor in the jalopy, it’s basic common sense to live below one’s means, to look like you have less than you really do. Even wallstreetplayboys preaches this. If a woman doesn’t like what she sees, that’s on her and speaks to her need to find a beta to fleece.

    Dinner on the first date? Not only no, but heck no! I don’t mind paying, but it’s a round of coffee or drinks, that’s it. If a woman doesn’t like that, she has filtered herself out of my life, thank her for showing her true colors and move on.

  67. Random Angeleno says:

    Worth the weight
    Roll her like dough and … ooh, that’s tmi

  68. @Oscar,

    The part I found especially ironic was where she explained that as a non-white identifying individual that she didn’t understand the significance of colonization because she had been raised in Switzerland. Too funny.

  69. Oscar says:

    @ Dalrock says:
    December 11, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    “Griffith explains that one of the ways God frequently talks to her is through vanity license plates. God once warned her off of a man she thought might be the one by having someone with a vanity license plate that read “redherng” cut her off in traffic.”

    Well, her boss is a verifiable false prophet, so that shouldn’t surprise anyone.

    https://infogalactic.com/info/Pat_Robertson#Predictions

  70. feministhater says:

    Sorry to hear about your son GIL. I hope you and your wife found peace after your loss.

  71. Spike says:

    “Michael” dodged a bullet. Big time.
    Cold, bitchy, reluctant, but still willing to eat top-of-the-line steaks he buys for her.
    The college professor actually has it right. He knows that clothes aren’t that important and cars depreciate very quickly. He has probably stacked his money where it’s important: property, the future and, if he’s Christian, for the betterment of Christ’s work.
    This brings me to another thought, Dalrock. In Scripture, God blesses some by giving them children. In Genesis, Sarah is given a son, Isaac to Abraham as a sign of the covenant God entered with him. Again in Genesis,”The Lord saw Leah was despised, so He opened her womb”. Hannah, at the time of Samuel, prayed to God because she was childless. God blessed he by giving her a son, Samson. Elizabeth, the wife of Zecharias, it is recorded by Luke, was devout but had no children. God blesses her with a child, John the Baptist. Then there is Mary, of course, overjoyed at the conception of our Saviour through her.
    Today’s woman would not only cringe at Gods blessings of children. She will run, like Jonah, a hundred miles in the opposite direction.

  72. Novaseeker says:

    We see that all the time with actresses who achieve stardom playing sex kitten roles, then see their careers fade along with their beauty. Remember Ashley Judd’s insane rant at the “Women’s March”? That’s exactly what you described.

    It’s a good example of it, yes. It happens to all older women who have been attractive their entire lives, but it stings even harder when their professional/working lives basically revolved around their appearance as well.

  73. Thanks FH. It’s been years but it still stings.

  74. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    Dalrock: God once warned her off of a man she thought might be the one by having someone with a vanity license plate that read “redherng” cut her off in traffic.

    That’s classic New Age “theology.” They even have a word for it, coined in the 1990s — synchronicity.

    Synchronicity is what appears to be a random coincidence, but isn’t. It’s actually the Universe sending you signals — Signs and Portents — to guide your life.

    It can be a seemingly random license plate. Or a number on a street sign. Or an unrelated news story. Say you’re dating a man named John. You’re wondering if you should get serious about John. Then you hear a radio news report about another John who was arrested for murder.

    The Universe is telling you — beware of John.

    In the 1990s, radio’s Art Bell popularized the term synchronicity. But it’s biggest boost into popular consciousness came from the 1990s bestseller, The Celestine Prophecy: http://www.weeklyuniverse.com/2012/celestine.html

  75. It happens to all older women who have been attractive their entire lives, but it stings even harder when their professional/working lives basically revolved around their appearance as well.

    They must have had that sense that things were coming easy to them because of their looks (if they had any sanity) and wrestle with value apart from sex-appeal. When they lose the looks it gets confirmed and provides a built in reason to hate men for “using them”. This is the #metoo movement..

  76. David says:

    So a woman with a $7M net worth is quite happy to fleece the modest-income professor. Yes, that is a prize to be won! Plus, she was offended that he finally demanded separate checks on the THIRD date.

    Pick up the tab, bitch!

  77. Hugh Mann says:

    What Kentucky Headhunter said. A single, handsome 41 year old male with a decent job is way way higher in MMV (marriage market value) than a single female of similar age, attractiveness and income. It’s a pity her mother never told her the facts of life.

    CSI – “hypersensitivity to criticism and rejection sounds like Borderline Personality Disorder”

    A pretty woman aged 41 may well have never been rejected point-blank by a male in her whole dating life – up til that moment her looks and persona may always have meant that she was doing the rejecting if anyone was. No wonder she was stunned.

  78. Griffith personifies almost perfectly exactly the types of single women who now vitiate Christian churches these days, most of them ex-carouselers and divorcees.

  79. earl says:

    Note to self…get a personalized license plate that says NOWENDY.

  80. BillyS says:

    GiL,

    He keeps telling me to DIE (to myself) and helping me do precisely that

    That is not the only message in the Scriptures. It also does me no good when I am trying to figure out what to do with my life. He doesn’t want me to go blow up a building. Knowing what jobs to pursue/take, where to seek fellowship, etc. are all perfectly valid topics to seek His wisdom and expect a response, per James 1:5.

    He also tells me I am doing fine, something that is definitely helpful when a wife of almost 3 decades has fled. I am not as motivated as I would like to be, especially when the loneliness and such hits, but He keeps telling me I am doing fine.

    The fact that some abuse the idea doesn’t make it wrong in principle. Many people abuse encouragement to manipulate people, including pulling women from marriages. Does that mean I should never encourage others nor seek that from God?

    When are you heading to the mountains to live in a monastery to live like a monk so you can really die to yourself? Do you do nothing enjoyable in life? Is God a cosmic killjoy for you?

  81. BillyS says:

    Scott,

    Auditory hallucinations are a symptom of several thought disorders. Its not quackery.

    So the only Biblical things are those you have directly experienced?

    I have had God direct me in the little things. I may have been hearing myself in some of those, but I go by the principle of “My sheep will hear My voice” and I seek to be true to that.

    He told me that He accelerated what my wife had in her heart to bring this result. (He didn’t cause it, just caused her to do it quicker and stop being a drag on me.) That fits many other things as I have considered it since, but it was a clear “voice in my head” at the time.

    We both follow Christ in very different ways. You are free to go your own way, but to label what I have lived for over 40 years “quackery” is the height of arrogance.

  82. Is God a cosmic killjoy for you?

    Have you looked around BillyS? But no, He’s not a killjoy. He used to be in my mind but then I started getting an inkling of how He loved me despite what I’ve been into/through. He hasn’t called me to be a monk, instead I get to work with challenging people in a role where I’m looked to for wisdom, expertise and a very steady hand. Steady is not how people who know me would describe me. The only way I get to where I am is that God has been knocking me around for a long time in unpleasant ways. Killjoy is the antithesis of the motive while seeming to my flesh to be a headline feature of God in my life.

  83. earl says:

    I’d take any voice I hear in my head with a grain of salt. At the very least test the spirit.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+4+%3A+1-6&version=ESV

    Put it this way…sometimes you can become the false prophet if you believe every spirit that puts something in your head.

  84. John Q Public says:

    Why does anyone read this kind of stupid book? What could anyone get out of it?

  85. Gunner Q says:

    BillyS @ 3:13 pm:
    “That is not the only message in the Scriptures. It also does me no good when I am trying to figure out what to do with my life. He doesn’t want me to go blow up a building. Knowing what jobs to pursue/take, where to seek fellowship, etc. are all perfectly valid topics to seek His wisdom and expect a response, per James 1:5.”

    I agree and am a proponent of Christian mysticism. Although I don’t advocate it very often; women shouldn’t be encouraged to hear voices in her head and men today are so reductionist that they think of behaviors like dream interpretation as paganism.

  86. Farm Boy says:

    Ms. Griffith sure does provide a target rich environment. I wonder how many more posts Dalrock could do on her…

  87. @earl
    I agree with you about any voices one hears in the attic.
    But as far as testing such voices though, Jesus specifically says in Luke 4:12:
    “It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.”

    When I think of Miss Griffith, can’t help but think of that catchy tune by The Association:

    “Who’s tripping down the streets of the city?
    Smilin’ at everybody she sees?
    Who’s reachin’ out to capture a moment?
    Everyone knows it’s WENDY!!”

  88. Anonymous Reader says:

    Dalrock
    Griffith explains that one of the ways God frequently talks to her is through vanity license plates.

    Since I got The Glasses a few years back it has become painfully obvious to me that women tend to be superstitious. Some more so than others, but the last 2 years or so it’s obvious all of them are supersitious to some degree. It doesn’t matter how educated, either, that MBA or BS / MS / PhD on the wall doesn’t hide that astrology chart on the desktop, or other odd things. It is probably a result of the emotional whirl that they live in plus a generally weak understanding of cause & effect plus the stronger tendency to groupthink, plus other stuff…

    Whatever it is, I have noticed that women have a real weakness in this area. Yeah, NAWALT and MDTT, ok, but it’s more common for women to “see “signs” than men in my experience.I once assisted an older woman with minor car trouble who assured me that God always puts gasoline into her car when she is shopping for groceries so that she can make it to the gas station. She knew this was true because the gas gauge always read differently after shopping than before. She was quite serious.

  89. Lost Patrol says:

    License plates! Dalrock included a link because he knew we wouldn’t fall for that one. So naturally it’s true.

    Sad, really. A woman her age should know all you have to do is pull the petals off a daisy. He loves me, he loves me not. Of course, you have to live with it if the last petal comes off at “not”.

  90. The “Red Herring” license plate WAS a Godsend….for that guy.

  91. Oscar says:

    @ GIL

    There’s so much crazy in that article that it’s hard to pick out just one example of crazy from the pile. It’s good for a laugh, though!

  92. Anonymous Reader says:

    Lost Patrol
    Of course, you have to live with it if the last petal comes off at “not”.

    That’s why daisy plants are supposed to have more than one flower.

  93. BillyS says:

    Earl,

    Correct me if I’m wrong, Billy…but didn’t you mention before that your wife’s rationalization for divorce was because the Lord was speaking to her?

    Not quite right. God told her to marry me many years ago. (“Don’t let this one get by”)

    She left because “she couldn’t take me cutting her down all the time, etc.

    In reality, she left because she wanted to be single and never wanted to be married in the first place. It just took her this long to walk against God’s clear will and shave her mind.

    Hope this clarifies things.

    BTW, I am not saying everyone who hears from God is accurate. But then no human is always accurate, so I will go with seeking Him through His Word AND His Spirit.

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  95. earl says:

    The “Red Herring” license plate WAS a Godsend….for that guy.

    The Lord works in mysterious ways.

  96. Opus says:

    Perhaps I may enlarge (or as Rollo might say, Riff) upon Novaseeker at 2.20pm where he observes that Griffith has always had male attention and in spades. From my observation of women like that, being aware that they are a pearl of great price every man they meet might just not be quite good enough and so they drift into their forties and beyond often fairly celibate but waiting for that right man. They get their buzz not out of sex but out of male desire and drooping tongues. The man they want never materialises.

    Nova goes on to say that Griffith will have taken hard the rejection by the man she asked out. Women are not used to being rejected (every man when asked how many women he would like will say just one more; in short like G. Khan he wants a harem and thus does not reject). Women as far as I can judge (all of them) being given the boot will feel male rejection like a kick to the solar plexus for, for women, their desirability is their only calling card (though making a sandwich does help). Affirmative action is just lipstick on a pig.

  97. BillyS says:

    GiL,

    It could be we have very different backgrounds then. I still need to die to myself and live for Him, but I never did a lot of the bad stuff many did, yet I still ended up with not much. It certainly frustrates me, but I know deep down that He is good (and not in some fake way – Jesus noted that God was better than any human father), but it is sure a rough time now.

    I just get annoyed when someone asserts that God cannot speak to us today, that He is limited in any way. Yes, whatever He says will be consistent with His written Word, but that leaves a great many things where hearing directly from Him is vitally important.

    I have never heard a physically audible voice, but I have heard His voice throughout my life. I do get irked when someone claims that is just mental illness, but go ahead if that makes you (the generic you, not GiL necessarily) feel better. I will continue with what works and what is based on His Word.

    Earl,

    That is certainly true, but also note that Jesus said His sheep would hear his voice and not the voice of a stranger.

    http://biblehub.com/john/10-27.htm

    Giving up seeking His voice because you might make a mistake negates the value of His statement, unless you want to tie His voice only to the Scriptures and RCC traditions (in your case).

    Gunner Q,

    women shouldn’t be encouraged to hear voices in her head and men today are so reductionist that they think of behaviors like dream interpretation as paganism.

    I fully agree. Nothing someone “hears from God” should directly conflict with the Scriptures. Many misuse that excuse to justify their own ways and even their own failures, but that still doesn’t negate the principle. People use many reasons to justify their actions, and this is just another excuse for them, even though many would not admit it.

  98. The universe usually tells me it doesn’t want me to have something by sending a repo man.

  99. Oscar says:

    @ Kentucky Headhunter

    Repo MAN? That’s awfully sexist of the universe.

  100. Tom K. says:

    “You are a Pearl of Great Price, Wendy!”

    Huh?

    So this was the Voice of God speaking in her spirit?

    But I thought the Pearl of Great Price was the Kingdom of God. Isn’t that what Jesus said? He might have gotten in wrong. It’s possible, I guess. Perhaps there’s more than ONE Pearl of Great Price. Perhaps Everybody IS Somebody.

    “Hath God Said, For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly…”?

    Obviously that verse was meant just for men. They’re always screwing things up with their Male Egos. Christian women don’t have ego problems like men. We’re always more spiritually sensitive than men!

  101. earl says:

    That is certainly true, but also note that Jesus said His sheep would hear his voice and not the voice of a stranger.

    That’s why we know Wendy’s pearl of great price explanation is complete bull.

  102. @BillyS, I’m not a cessationist. I also take Romans 8 completely to heart. Counting it all joy.

  103. @Oscar Just like Baskin-Robbins, the universe don’t play.

  104. Luke7 says:

    The broad in the OP has her hypergamy more than cancel out her above-average looks for her age. By holding out for marriage to a top alpha near her own age (and thus well above her own SMV, to say nothing of MMV), she is in a position similar to a pharmaceutical salesman who is dead-set on selling drugs past their expiration date for full price to the NIH, Johns Hopkins, or the Mayo Clinic — when she should be doing the dating equivalent of donating them to a charity that will send them to the worst part of the Third World, in exchange for the tax credit. The idea is that she’d get SOMETHING out of her sexuality (beyond the free dinners and adulation she is accustomed to receiving, that are clearly running out due to her qualifying for AARP in under 2 years), rather than the nothing she’s clearly headed for.

    I would give money to be a fly on the wall the next time she privately pleads with an alpha that is indifferent to her, and he were to tell her this: “Marriage is for having children, and I want children. Why would I marry you, when I could either marry a woman young enough to still can bear my children, or use the money I’d otherwise spend on supporting an age-barren chick like you, on an egg donor and gestational surrogate?”.

  105. BillyS says:

    I don’t think most men who would be in the market to marry a 53 year old would still plan on having children. A few perhaps, but very few.

    Though she may be like many such women who prefer younger men. Those men could marry younger and have children without too much of a stretch.

    She didn’t look too bad to me, but the baggage she would come with would likely be far more detrimental than her looks at that age.

  106. Luke7 says:

    Agreed that a man who’d think for 10 seconds about marrying a 53-YO would almost certainly not want children, BillyS. That’s the whole point; she utterly fails marriageability for most men now, and permanently.

    Now, I am a rare exception on the above. I’m 56, and I have two 5-YO children (twins) brought about by an egg donor and gestational surrogate. My wife is actually slightly older than me; she was what I could find, when I decided to do this, and believed it would be best done with a wife. The latter was my mistake; I should have gone the Toban Morrison route, doing it as an unmarried father with NO woman in the picture I’m not employing, just hiring the nanny, etc., I’d need for help.

  107. Luke7 says:

    Oh, and I think Christians (outside of seminaries) would do well to stay away from the term “pearl of great price”. The Mormons have stolen it, and using the term tends to make a person carry at least a whiff of the same apostasy to many casual listeners, sad to say.

  108. davidtaylor2 says:

    @feministhater says:
    December 11, 2017 at 11:53 am
    Okay, I’ve never, ever heard the Lord, nor felt his spirit, I’ve had zero contact with him one way or the other so would the gentlemen who have like to chime in here. Does God go out of his way to whisper sweet nothings into your ears or not?

    From scripture,
    1) We have to try the spirits. Everything that is speaking to you isn’t God.
    1 John 4:1 (KJV)
    1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    2) The devil can make himself look like an angel of light to deceive people.
    II Corinthians 11:13-15 (KJV)
    13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
    14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    3) The Lord tells us to follow Him, not what we want to hear.
    John 10:27 (KJV)
    My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

    4) Christians have to have their senses trained to discern both good and evil, and it’s possible to be an infant and immature in Christ.
    Hebrews 5:13,14 (BSB)
    13 Everyone who lives on milk is still an infant, inexperienced in the message of righteousness.
    14 But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained their sensibilities to distinguish good from evil.

    5) If someone claims that they have a message from God, it has to come true as they predicted. If it does not, that message was not from God.
    Deuteronomy 18:21,22 (NLT)
    21 “But you may wonder, ‘How will we know whether or not a prophecy is from the Lord?’
    22 If the prophet speaks in the Lord’s name but his prediction does not happen or come true, you will know that the Lord did not give that message. That prophet has spoken without my authority and need not be feared.

  109. earl says:

    Oh, and I think Christians (outside of seminaries) would do well to stay away from the term “pearl of great price”. The Mormons have stolen it, and using the term tends to make a person carry at least a whiff of the same apostasy to many casual listeners, sad to say.

    Well wuddah know.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_of_Great_Price_(Mormonism)

    As long as a Christian is referring to the ‘pearl of great price’ as the Kingdom of Heaven because that’s what Jesus said…then it’s ok. Someone should tell Wendy that.

  110. snowdensjacket0x0x0 says:

    Oh so that’s the problem. She thinks she can get a man who is the same age as her. The ladies should take note. After age 30 successful men don’t date women their own age anymore. We date, and marry, women who are ten to fifteen years younger than us. I dated a woman who was seventeen years younger than me for a year in fact and then married one eleven years younger.

    Why in the world would a successful attractive man post 30 ever court a woman anywhere near his own age? He wouldn’t and we don’t.

    A hard lesson for the post divorce women to learn along with the career-first spinsters.

  111. Red Pill Latecomer says:

    At around the 7:25 mark, Wendy explains how God told her, “You need to learn how to love Wendy first, before you can have a healthy relationship.

    That’s what God is telling Wendy. Learn to love yourself. That’s why Jesus died on the cross. To teach women self love.

  112. Anonymous Reader says:

    You need to learn how to love Wendy first, before you can have a healthy relationship.

    Once she reallly learns how to love Wendy, then she can marry…Wendy.

  113. earl says:

    That’s what God is telling Wendy. Learn to love yourself. That’s why Jesus died on the cross. To teach women self love.

    This is why there shouldn’t ever be female clergy.

  114. Luke7 says:

    Agreed on both, Earl.

    1) An organization that favors/allows/recognizes female (or noncelibate male homosexual) clergy is apostate, and no longer Christian.

    2) The Bible’s “pearl of great price” is clearly something other than a 53-YO vag and cobwebbed uterus.

  115. Frank K says:

    Oh, and I think Christians (outside of seminaries) would do well to stay away from the term “pearl of great price”. The Mormons have stolen it

    I doubt that few outside of the LDS have ever heard of that book. To be honest, the LDS are pretty irrelevant as an influence on society or popular culture.

    The also, for some weird reason, call their version of communion “sacrament”, even though they deny it has any sacramental nature, not to mention that the term is Catholic. Scott, correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that the Orthodox do not use the word “sacrament” and instead refer to them as “divine mysteries”.

  116. Novaseeker says:

    Scott, correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that the Orthodox do not use the word “sacrament” and instead refer to them as “divine mysteries”.

    We use both terms interchangeably in Orthodoxy — the sacraments are mysteries and the mysteries are sacraments.

  117. Lost Patrol says:

    “You need to learn how to love Wendy first, before you can have a healthy relationship.

    A swing and a miss.

    The Apostle Paul to the church in Rome (12:3).

    “For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you.”

  118. Timothy Leif says:

    It continues to boggle the mind how women really, really believe they deserve a great man regardless of what they bring to the table. She’s as delusional as a hardcore CC rider!

    She and I are in agreement on one thing, though. She is a very pricey pearl; she’s an expensive ornament.

  119. Someone says:

    Wendy would make a nice bang buddy, but worthless as a wife. She looks better than most women 20 years younger.

  120. Boxer says:

    The Apostle Paul to the church in Rome (12:3).

    “For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but think of yourself with sober judgment, according to the measure of faith God has given you.”

    That’s a very powerful bit of realtalk, that most (women and also men) will never take to heart.

  121. ManlyMan says:

    I can’t believe you guys actually missed the real deal about “Michael”. Guy was/is likely married and came into town on the weekends for a pump and dump. When she got serious he bailed.

    Oh and the “Professor” had it right. He knew he wasn’t gettin’ any so he used the three date rule.

    This woman is bat shit crazy.

  122. Oscar says:

    With the exception of the polish and poise developed over three decades of broadcast journalism, Ms Wendy speaks like a college girl. Her narrative is full of “happily ever after” nonsense straight out of a Disney princess movie.

    That means Ms Wendy possesses the wisdom and maturity of a sorority girl in a 53-year-old, menopausal body.

    What a keeper!

  123. feeriker says:

    I had urged men to man up and not be afraid to ask women out!

    What she was saying here was actually “Ask me out! Come on, PUH-LEEEEAAASE ask me out! … Damn you, ASK ME OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    That, right there, is the female equivalent of the male Gamma.

    Pathetic.

  124. Luke7 says:

    Frank K says:
    December 11, 2017 at 7:26 pm

    “To be honest, the LDS are pretty irrelevant as an influence on society or popular culture.”

    You should try harder to keep up on current events. The Republican Presidential Candidate in 2012 belonged to what religious group, again?

  125. @Red Pill, his riff on Math was actually pretty funny. He should have stopped there.

  126. earl says:

    What she was saying here was actually “Ask me out! Come on, PUH-LEEEEAAASE ask me out! … Damn you, ASK ME OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Don’t you guys know what great pearl I am! Quit being intimidated by this great pearl.

  127. Johnycomelately says:

    It’s certainly interesting how God’s hypergamy even trumps hers, in that the voice she hears tells her to hang on for something even better.

    At this point hearing an internal monologue and attributing it to an outside source would be a prime indicator for mental illness. Delusional, push-pull, victim complex, extravagant self worth followed by low self worth and hearing voices….if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…

    Going by her rationale Mary must have been devastated when God told her to marry an old single father high priest.

    I’m pretty sure she wasn’t listening when God told her to marry the scruffy local kid.

  128. earl says:

    With the exception of the polish and poise developed over three decades of broadcast journalism, Ms Wendy speaks like a college girl. Her narrative is full of “happily ever after” nonsense straight out of a Disney princess movie.

    I’ve worked in the media industry. That’s usually how all the female anchors are. That camera does something to short circuit their brain I think.

  129. Frank K says:

    You should try harder to keep up on current events. The Republican Presidential Candidate in 2012 belonged to what religious group, again?

    I seem to recall that he lost in a landslide to an incumbent who was struggling with a recession and was only nominated because the other candidates looked like they fell out of the clown car. Obama didn’t win that election … Romney lost it.

    And my point still stands. Mormons are a small minority that has little impact. When was the last time you read any LDS related news? They don’t control Hollywood or the media. Most people have heard of Pope Francis or Billy Graham. How many can name the President of the Mormon church, or even know that the LDS leader has the title of “President”?

  130. imnobody00 says:

    I can’t believe you guys actually missed the real deal about “Michael”. Guy was/is likely married and came into town on the weekends for a pump and dump. When she got serious he bailed.

    I was amazed nobody has seen something that obvious. And the fact that “unlock her heart” is the emotional implication of having had sex.

    William Hoghart had it figured more than 200 years ago.

    Before Michael’s seduction of Ms. Griffith

    https://goo.gl/images/WFVSJL

    After Michael’s seduction of Ms. Griffith
    https://goo.gl/images/FqUBq7

    Look the lady in the latter painting having unlocked her heart.

    Ah and the “Professor” had it right. He knew he wasn’t gettin’ any so he used the three date rule.

    Right.
    .

  131. Scott says:

    Frank –

    Like nova states. Sacrament=mystery.

    They are used interchangeably in the Orthodox Church.

    The RC at the beginning of their mass “we gather today to consider these sacred mysteries.”

    It’s the form that consecrates it. Both Orthodox and Catholics believe this.

  132. freebird says:

    she’s gotta save the vag for Pat, exactly what did you expect a $100 million/yr “alpha’s” criteria to be?

  133. feeriker says:

    Jesus was the polar opposite in all things of what Mizz Griffith considers a real man. Why would she give him the time of day, even in a non-romantic context? If she were to encounter him on the street, she would probably run out into traffic just to get to the other side to avoid him.

  134. Tarl says:

    Dalrock: God once warned her off of a man she thought might be the one by having someone with a vanity license plate that read “redherng” cut her off in traffic.

    That’s classic New Age “theology.”

    Also classic delusional disorder.

  135. Anon says:

    I am not sure how much of what Wendy Griffith writes is what she really believes, and how much is an exaggeration to sell more products.

    At any rate, such a woman provides a useful service as ‘flypaper’, in that she endlessly drains the resources of cuckservatives and general blue-pill men.

    The professor earning a modest income was expected to pick up the tab for $7M net worth Wendy. He eventually pushed back and caller her out, but only after the first $200. It could have been a lot worse, but he is still a beta.

    Meanwhile, the basic, well-established PUA template calls for $0-$20 to be spent on a woman before sex. It really is not hard at all.

    I am certain that Wendy Griffith can indeed get a cuckservative man the same age as her if she really decided to (temporarily) marry. Remember that she is still well above the league of someone like Jim Gay-ratty, who married a single mother older than him despite being semi-famous.

    Overall, her massive extraction from cuckservative men (both directly, as well as indirectly when women buy her products with money their husbands and fathers have earned) performs a valuable eugenics service.

  136. Anon says:

    I had urged men to man up and not be afraid to ask women out!

    Geez. Her expectation is a three-digit expenditure by the man up front, even though she is much richer than most of them.

    That said, if countless cuckservatives keep obliging, why should she expect any less? They are willing to pay.

  137. Anon says:

    So, the commenters here really ought to make sure Wendy Griffith sees these comments. The big gap here is that all these demolitions are not seen by the subjects being demolished.

  138. Anon says:

    Transgender “woman” beats other women in power-lifting competition: https://sports.yahoo.com/transgender-weightlifter-wins-silver-medal-social-media-abuse-161031998.html

    So a man (claiming to be a woman) beats most of the women contestants at power-lifting.

    This is GOOD, because it exposes the flaws behind the very premise of (most) womens’ sports.

    The tranny is just the corrective process on the already-stupid idea of female weightlifting. Under a truly free market, very few female sports would exist at the Olympic or Pro level (only the aesthetic ones like synchronized swimming, gymnastics, etc.).

    Don’t be a conservative that accepts every unnatural shift artificially engineered by a big government, and only disputes the latest shift. That is THE very definition of a conservative who actually helps normalize leftism.

  139. Tom K. says:

    I made the mistake of clicking on one of the links above. It has caused me to question my entire conception of God!

    (Warning: Poe’s Law Triggered)

    Is God a Beta?

    After the professor refused to pay the full check on their third date, Wendy HAD to discuss the situation with a MAN. She couldn’t find one, so she asked a co-worker with a penis at CBN.

    “I asked one of my male co-anchors at the time, Lee Webb, what he thought about the situation. Lee affirmed what I felt deep in my heart: “When I was pursuing my wife, Donna, no expense was too great. I always paid and was happy to do so, not just for the ordinary but the extraordinary,” he recalled. Lee also pointed out that God’s love toward us is extravagant, not stingy. He cited 1 John 3:1: “What great love the Father has lavished on us” (NIV).

    I love the word “lavish.” It means “sumptuously rich and elaborate; to bestow something in generous or extravagant quantities upon; profuse, bounteous!”

    Then Lee went on to say something that blew me away. Based on this Scripture, he said, “The pursuing man has the great opportunity to imitate God!” Wow. I was so blessed by Lee’s words.

    A man has the privilege of being like God in his pursuit of a woman. Extravagant, lavish, generous, sumptuously rich! It still blows me away.”

    Me, too, Wendy!

    But have you ever noticed in the Scriptures, No matter how HARD God works to SHOW his LAVISHLOVE for his chosen Bride, Israel, they ALWAYS reject him? Or else marry Him and THEN PLAY THE HARLOT!

    The Bible says God does this so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE for rejecting Him.

    Wendy got BOTH. A man who LAVISHED her, whom she treated like shit. And a man who made it clear he wasn’t her sugar daddy.

    Wendy rejected them BOTH. That takes TALENT.

    To reject a man lavishing you with gifts of substance, time, or attention reveals you don’t APPRECIATE what he has given to you because you have an inflated opinion of yourself. You believe you are ENTITLED and he is MERELY doing what he OUGHT to do to gain the value of your attention for a short time.

    To be rejected by a man after three dates means YOU BROUGHT NOTHING TO THE TABLE. You have a niggardly heart! You are an emotional MISER. You are GREEDY and SELFISH and HE KNEW IT.

    This also explains why God then says,

    “And Isaiah is very bold and says,
    “I WAS FOUND BY THOSE WHO DID NOT SEEK ME,
    I BECAME MANIFEST TO THOSE WHO DID NOT ASK FOR ME.”
    But as for Israel He says, “ALL THE DAY LONG I HAVE STRETCHED OUT MY HANDS TO A DISOBEDIENT AND OBSTINATE PEOPLE.”

    The haughty and proud and entitled will NOT be saved. “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.”

  140. seventiesjason says:

    Billy S

    Speaking first hand of detoxing off alcohol alone, coming off cocaine after ten years of use (and five of those ten blowing over 500, sometimes 1000 bux in a week) alone in a vermin infested residential hotel in Chinatown…..this addiction wasn’t some college kid caught on a weekend bender on spring break. It was pure evil at the end. I caught a faint shadow of a flash of hell.

    Convinced 100% without a doubt that God indeed heard my pleas. My cries. My anguish. I was made clean by Him and Him alone.

    The mess that followed…. the pain I caused others. The hurt. The debt, bills and everything else I now had to deal with in sobriety.

    Yes. I was spoken to. I was rebuked. I was comforted. I was consoled. I was loved and Scott I am not psychotic, or insane. I tested by Scripture and prayer what I was told to make sure it was of Christ and not me.

    There is no possible way I could have stayed clean and not relapse by my own accord. None.

    What made the voice clear? My repentance. My making amends. My fault in this. Humility. Prayer and finally true acceptance of what He gave when I only deserved to be kicked when I was down and out.

    I will never forget. I listened and I obeyed. My transformation actually frightened many at first.

    So Billy….yeah I not only get, I know what you were saying above.

  141. Luke7 says:

    rank K says:
    December 11, 2017 at 9:56 pm

    “I seem to recall that he lost in a landslide to an incumbent who was struggling with a recession and was only nominated because the other candidates looked like they fell out of the clown car. Obama didn’t win that election … Romney lost it.”

    So since the radical feminist Hillary “Cankles” Clinton lost the following Presidential election to TGE, that means that “to be honest, the [feminists] are pretty irrelevant as an influence on society or popular culture.” in America, now? Uh, yeah. /s

  142. feeriker says:

    So, the commenters here really ought to make sure Wendy Griffith sees these comments. The big gap here is that all these demolitions are not seen by the subjects being demolished.

    The shock of seeing these brutal-truth comments might very well kill her.

    But have you ever noticed in the Scriptures, No matter how HARD God works to SHOW his LAVISHLOVE for his chosen Bride, Israel, they ALWAYS reject him? Or else marry Him and THEN PLAY THE HARLOT!

    The Bible says God does this so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE for rejecting Him.

    Wendy got BOTH. A man who LAVISHED her, whom she treated like shit. And a man who made it clear he wasn’t her sugar daddy.

    Wendy rejected them BOTH. That takes TALENT.

    “Wendy the Harlot.” It has a certain poetic-justice “ring” to it.

  143. anonymous coward says:

    …when suddenly I heard the unmistakable voice of the Lord in my spirit. He whispered so clearly to me, Wendy, you are a prize to be won!

    Professional tip: it was the other Lord’s voice, the Lord of Lies.

    Why are people so gullible and trusting whenever they encounter something even vaguely “spiritual”?

  144. Dave says:

    Once she really learns how to love Wendy, then she can marry…Wendy.

    LOL. I hope Wendy doesn’t get to read these comments. If she was devastated because a guy she was interested in preferred the gym to a dinner, I wonder how she’ll feel after she reads the many hilarious but brutal comments on this site.

  145. Dave says:

    Wendy would make a nice bang buddy, but worthless as a wife. She looks better than most women 20 years younger.

    Agreed. But I wouldn’t give her too much credit. She is still on the hunt for a husband, so she takes more time priming and prepping herself, especially now that she realizes (though won’t publicly acknowledge) that her competitors are much younger and perkier than herself.
    Let’s give her a few years after landing her “special man”. I bet she won’t be as pretty as she looks, even after you correct for her new age.

  146. feeriker says:

    Agreed. But I wouldn’t give her too much credit. She is still on the hunt for a husband, so she takes more time priming and prepping herself, especially now that she realizes (though won’t publicly acknowledge) that her competitors are much younger and perkier than herself.

    Let’s give her a few years after landing her “special man”. I bet she won’t be as pretty as she looks, even after you correct for her new age.

    Can you imagine how unhinged Wendy would become if she were to discover that one of “the ones who got away” eventually married a woman considerably less attractive then herself, but much, MUCH more devoted, feminine, and submissive?

  147. feeriker says:

    By the way, Wendy’s book just begs for a parody.

  148. greyghost says:

    God may need to show her where the local animal shelter is.

  149. Frank K says:

    So since the radical feminist Hillary “Cankles” Clinton lost the following Presidential election to TGE, that means that “to be honest, the [feminists] are pretty irrelevant as an influence on society or popular culture.” in America, now?

    So does the press run pro LDS stories? Do lawmakers pass pro LDS legislation? Do public schools teach LDS endorsed curricula? Do judges rule in favor of LDS teachings? Do TV networks run shows the promote LDS beliefs and values?

    No, they don’t. Romney was an LDS shot in the dark, and he crashed and burned. The Mormons are for all practical purposes invisible in our culture.

    So please tell me, how the LDS are influential in American culture? My experience with them is that they keep to themselves. It seems to me that the only time they get any press is when one of their polygamous offshoots gets into trouble.

  150. BillyS says:

    Jason,

    We all follow different paths, but His help is there for us. I didn’t go through the sin lows you and many others have, but I need His direct communication just as much.

    His mercy and your response is encouraging.

  151. Oscar says:

    OT, but near and dear to my heart: engineering is no longer an SJW-free zone.

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=10257

    “Donna Riley [of Purdue University’s School of Engineering Education], who previously taught engineering at Smith College for 13 years, published an article in the most recent issue of the journal Engineering Education, arguing that academic rigor is a ‘dirty deed’ that upholds ‘white male heterosexual privilege’.” ~ CR

    Engineering used to be free from this nonsense. Not anymore! When freeway overpasses start spontaneously collapsing, they’ll blame it on white male privilege.

  152. danno says:

    At first I was like “this can’t be real. Wendy is actually using hyperbole to show women how not to be.” Then I watched the video and read the linked book excerpts. Wow. What a piece of work. She’s a very attractive woman physically. But the fact that guys are running away from her should tell her something about herself.

    Boy, there’s so much to comment on it’s tough to know where to start, so I’ll just hit the one high point: Dear Wendy, the pearl of great price is the kingdom of God and you aren’t it. Please re-read Proverbs 31 and look at the characteristics of a good wife. You don’t have them. Indeed, you embody “Charm is deceptive and beauty fleeting. . . .”

  153. Jason says:

    I went to see a professional production of “A Christmas Carol” last night at the Sayoran Theater last night downtown. Alan Autry (who was our mayor for eight years here in Fresno, and he played “Bubba” in that TV series “In The Heat of the Night” with Carol O’ Connor back in the late 1980’s) portrayed “the ghost of Christmas past”

    It was a solid production. I was entertained. The reviews were okay, but they did ask “why were minorities not more represented in the production”

    Oh…..I don’t know, maybe because “A Christmas Carol” took place in Victorian London?????????

    These SJW’s never quit.

  154. Tarl says:

    The reviews were okay, but they did ask “why were minorities not more represented in the production”

    Oh…..I don’t know, maybe because “A Christmas Carol” took place in Victorian London?????????

    Believe me, I have seen PLENTY of plays where the presence of black actors makes NO sense at all (Hamlet, Oscar Wilde, Restoration comedies) and yet there they are. One member of a supposed English family in 1910 is black, and I’m sitting in the audience all distracted thinking “WTF?” I recently saw a version of A Christmas Carol that had Chinese actors in it.

    “Race blind casting” is a thing. A stupid thing, but many things in the world today are stupid.

  155. Oscar says:

    @ Tarl

    “’Race blind casting’ is a thing.”

    Not really. Film and theater are visual arts. A good director controls everything you see on the screen or stage, because everything you see tells a part of the story. So, when the producer casts a freckled redhead, there’s a reason for it. When he (it’s almost always a he) casts an actress with an afro, there’s a reason for it.

    The reason may advance the script, or it may advance some “cause” in the director’s head, but there’s always a reason.

  156. Casey says:

    Good Heavens…..this woman needs a wake-up call of gargantuan proportion.

    There’s nothing quite like foisting your own foibles and poor decision making onto the Lord Almighty. This is Woman 101 – Never take accountability.

    I doubt very much she will ever land a man given:

    1) Her attitude (prize to be won – special little snowflake)
    2) Her advanced age

    Griffith is the last person from which a woman should seek relationship advice.

    It is tantamount to seeking Wealth advice from a homeless person, Health advice from a morbidly obese person, or Happiness advice from the chronically depressed.

    Just to clear the field, while you are searching for your 1 in a 1,000,000 man, your representation as a woman is about 1 in 10.

    Chins up Griffith, you hold out for this amazing 1 in a 1,000,000 man.
    Given your track record, you will screw it up if he does present himself.

  157. Son of Liberty says:

    Timothy Leif says:
    December 11, 2017 at 8:01 pm

    It continues to boggle the mind how women really, really believe they deserve a great man regardless of what they bring to the table. She’s as delusional as a hardcore CC rider!

    She and I are in agreement on one thing, though. She is a very pricey pearl; she’s an expensive ornament.

    Two years with the red pill, and it still amazes me, fluffy, empty gibberish of thought process and mental gymnastics. Unbelievable.

  158. Son of Liberty says:

    Christians shouldn’t mock or put down other believers but I cannot consider this in this manner. It is insane, borderline false prohoet, deception and leaving young women astray, to the point of violating the 4th commandment..

    Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain (KJV)

    I mean the constant God talked to me, God told me this and that, God over here and there… absolute joke.

  159. SirHamster says:

    Oh, and I think Christians (outside of seminaries) would do well to stay away from the term “pearl of great price”. The Mormons have stolen it, and using the term tends to make a person carry at least a whiff of the same apostasy to many casual listeners, sad to say.

    Thanks for the tip, did not know that was a Mormon thing.

    But we don’t have to surrender any of our Christian ideas and terms to heretics.

    Claiming it back will take work, but it can and should be done. If we give up one thing because “stolen”, the end result is to give up everything, because there is no shortage of thieves.

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  161. PokeSalad says:

    It was a solid production. I was entertained. The reviews were okay, but they did ask “why were minorities not more represented in the production”

    They also whined that even though the remake was called, “Murder on the Orient Express,” there was not one Asian in the cast.

  162. PokeSalad says:

    The “Red Herring” license plate WAS a Godsend….for that guy.

    I’m checking right now to see if it’s already taken in my state….

  163. earl says:

    Griffith is the last person from which a woman should seek relationship advice.

    It’s amazing how the older spinsters are peddling this ‘you go girl’ attitude to the younger ones. They want them to be as miserable and alone as they are.

  164. Dale says:

    FeministHater asks, “Does God go out of his way to whisper sweet nothings into your ears or not?”

    1) I was about 10 years old. About 20 seconds before a dog came at me, the “random” thought popped into my head, “What would you do if that dog attacked you?” So I had time to think about it, and realize that the only thing I could do would be to ask God to protect me. As I finish this thinking process, I look up, and the dog is coming toward me, already within 10 feet. I cry out, “Jesus, protect me!” The dog immediately spun around, and ran in the opposite direction. He would not let me get within about 40 feet of him.
    So I firmly believe that the original “random” thought was not random at all, but God, or one of his angels, speaking to me. Not for a pointless discussion however; for a specific reason. Feel free to argue whether that reason was my protection, or for the development of my faith/trust in God which is, in the eternal frame, much more important.
    And by the way: Praise God! He is wonderful, and loves not only the world collectively, but actually is aware of and cares about me, as an individual. Thank you master.

    2) I was about 12 years old. For some “odd” reason I felt the desire to go speak to some guy at the back of the church. Did not know or recognize him. My father sees me over there, comes over to see what is up, and starts speaking with the man. I lose interest and wander off. But in the subsequent conversation, my father said he presented the gospel to the man.
    If the original desire was God’s leading, it was obviously for a specific reason; giving the man the opportunity and knowledge for repentance (2 Peter 3:8-9).

    3) My father said he heard a command to go to the hospital. He decided to do it later that evening, rather than immediately. So he then heard the command to go now. At the hospital, the doctors apparently told him that if he had not come in when he did, he likely would be dead (heart issues).
    Again, this was obviously for a specific reason.

    There are about a dozen instances I can point to where God has intervened in my personal life. As for “speaking” to me verbally, I only remember the one event (#1 above). But, the lack of verbal words in the other events does nothing to reduce the love that the Creator of the Universe has shown specifically to little me in my life.
    Psalm 8:1-4:
    1
    O Lord, our Lord,
    how majestic is your name in all the earth!
    You have set your glory above the heavens.
    2
    Out of the mouth of babies and infants,
    you have established strength because of your foes,
    to still the enemy and the avenger.

    3
    When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers,
    the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,
    4
    what is man that you are mindful of him,
    and the son of man that you care for him?

    @Earl: It was a weak moment for her… The serpent can take advantage of that situation. Look no further than when Jesus came out of the desert after fasting for 40 days and was tempted.

    Very insightful comment. This is similar to how the Bible does not record any attempt from Satan to tempt Adam… until Eve came on the scene.

    Scott opinoined We call this psychosis in my profession.
    I understand the idea, but I am reluctant to say everyone who claims to hear God’s voice is nuts. After all, God has the demonstrated ability to speak to men… check out all the prophets.
    I knew one woman who claimed she occasionally had conversations with God. Not my experience, so I cannot comment, other than to say she seemed both honest and sane.

    GIL, I’ll echo FH’s condolences. May God give you his peace; John 14:25-27

  165. Michelle says:

    OT: Just wanting to ask a question and get a male point of view.

    It is my policy on “first dates” to whisper discretely to the server that I would like separate checks. I do that because I don’t believe that men should have to bear the total expense of dating. It’s a first date, and we are just getting together to see if there are hints of enough compatibility to pursue a relationship. It is a risk for both of us, so my thought is that we should both contribute financially.

    I’ve never questioned how this plays in the mind of the man. It seemed the right thing to do, but now I’m wondering: Is this a mistake on my part? What would you think if you were on a date and this happened?

  166. Anon says:

    It is my policy on “first dates” to whisper discretely to the server that I would like separate checks. I do that because I don’t believe that men should have to bear the total expense of dating.

    If you are telling the truth, then your approach is good. You are considerably more moral than 90% of women.

    It is definitely NOT a mistake on your part. The man will think highly of you. The only man who won’t is one who is extremely insecure and whiteknights as compensation (a cuckservative).

    Ironically, women over 33 are more demanding of courtship expenditure from men, despite their own value being far lower than that of younger women. It is since AF did not land them a husband, they want to mine the BB hard.

  167. rachel says:

    @seventies Jason . Your story is seriously impressive and is such a contrast to Wendy’s story; humble obedience leads to sanity but proud disobedience leads to insanity.

  168. Luke7 says:

    Michelle asked:

    “What would you think if you were on a date and this happened?”

    You would considerably move up in my estimation as worthy of additional dates. Finding an unattached woman who makes a point of not being solely a taker, a parasite, is as desirable to a man as it is unusual.

  169. “I heard the unmistakable voice of the Lord in my spirit. He whispered so clearly to me, Wendy, you are a prize to be won! . . . I knew the Lord’s voice, and I knew that He was speaking to me about my value.”

    Ugh. She combines bad Christian feminist jabber with poisonous Sloppy God Talk (“God told me just what I wanted to hear – again!”).

  170. She writes a book trashing a good man (except for his apparent bad discernment in dating her) and she expects others to line up and pursue her with even greater intensity? Uh, sure . . .

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  172. Matt says:

    “I heard the unmistakable voice of the Lord in my spirit. He whispered so clearly to me, Wendy, you are a prize to be won!”

    Is she sure it wasn’t her narcissism whispering.

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