Father’s Day is a difficult day for modern Christians. While modern Christians have contempt for fathers 365 days a year, this is the day that makes the contempt for fatherhood most difficult to contain. For while the feeling of contempt for fathers (especially married fathers) is all but universal, it is also something which modern Christians still feel the need to deny. During the other 364 days of the year modern Christians can focus on singing the praises of single motherhood and chasing down (modern Christian) heretics who won’t tell women God wants them to divorce their husbands. But Father’s Day is a day set aside to honor fathers, something Christians are explicitly commanded to do.
Last June I wrote a series of posts about a group that tried to wrestle with this very problem. The group set out to do something radical for modern Christians, and honor fathers on Father’s day. As Stephen Kendrick explained (emphasis mine):
It’s easy for us to honor our moms, but too oftentimes people don’t honor their fathers. And so this Father’s Day, and leading up to it, we want to encourage you to honor your father.
The Executive Director of the group put it similarly:
As a pastor for over twenty years I used to get very nervous after Mother’s Day because, I always wonder now what, we’ve only got a few weeks, what are we going to do with Father’s Day?
While the idea was a noble one, the concept of honoring fathers was just too disgusting for modern Christians to accept. So instead of honoring fathers, they taught that we should not call God the Father, refocused the day to only apply to fathers honoring their own fathers, offered a list of cringe-worthy social media ideas, and generally focused on telling men to man up.
For those who are outside of modern Christian culture, this is no doubt difficult to process. Why would “the patriarchy” hate fathers so much? The standard assumption is that secular culture is hostile to fathers, but that Christians are fighting the culture in this regard. But modern Christians hate married fathers so much the depth of the usually concealed contempt is shocking when it comes out.
One way the concealed contempt comes out is in wildly popular Christians movies. The secular reviewer Matt Fagerholm at rogerebert.com noted that the villain in the movie War Room (the married father) lacked any positive qualities whatsoever:
The film’s centerpiece sequence occurs early on, as Elizabeth sits weeping in her closet while pleading, “God, help him love me again.” This moment is heartbreaking for all the wrong reasons. Since the Kendricks have mistaken one-dimensional caricatures for people who exist in the real world, they forgot to provide Tony with any redeeming qualities that would make us want to root for his marriage. As for the film’s advice to women who are beaten by their husbands, one of Elizabeth’s co-workers advises, “Learn to duck so God can hit him.”
Likewise the feminists at Dame were astonished by the anti-father message of Mom’s Night Out, as they explained in Manchildren Are Not Sexy. Neither Are Helpless Dads. This is a movie that Christians adored, yet feminists were made deeply uncomfortable by the anti father and anti family message it carried:
And that’s the biggest problem with Moms’ Night Out: The moral of the story isn’t that the women are supposed to stay home and not have fun, but that the men are totally hapless morons without them around—and that this lesson is still being drilled into our heads in 2014. We’re supposed to feel better about this “men are total idiots, the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world” philosophy (and that latter piece of wisdom was actually uttered in the movie in case you missed the point). But this story of the helpless manchild is a disservice to men—and families—everywhere.
But of all of the days of the year, Father’s Day is the day where the modern Christian contempt for fathers is most visible. To get a sense of this, do a web search on “Father’s Day Sermon” and read/listen through the results. I’ll go through this in more detail next week, but for today I’ll share the sermon that came first when I did a Google search on the term the other day. The sermon is titled A Few Good Men, and it starts off in a relatively positive way. While it follows the traditional Father’s Day pattern of telling the fathers in the congregation to man up, it suggests that at least a few of them actually are good men*:
Prerequisites to being a Good Father:
Being a man, functioning as a man, taking responsibility as a man, thinking like a man, acting like a man, working like a man, all of these are prerequisites to being a good Father!
You will not be a good Father until you are a good Man. It’s a dying art today…there are not many in our nation anymore. Thank God we DO have a few good men here…we can always use a few more!
With that out of the way, we get to the meat of the sermon, a long series of men are stupid jokes:
THE MEN’S THESAURUS
(men don’t always say what they mean) – ladies, please allow me to translate for your future benefit:
When a man says “IT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG TO EXPLAIN”
He means: “I have no idea how it works”
When a man says “TAKE A BREAK, HONEY. YOU ARE WORKING TOO HARD’’
He means: “I can’t hear the game over the vacuum cleaner”
When a man says ’THAT’S INTERESTING DEAR.’
He means: “Are you still talking?”
When a man says: “IT’S A GUY THING”
He means: “There is no rational thought pattern connected with this, and you have no chance at all of making it logical”
When a man says “CAN I HELP WITH DINNER”
He means: “Why isn’t it ready yet?”
When a man says “UH HUH, SURE HONEY,” or “YES, DEAR”
He means: Absolutely nothing – It’s a conditioned response.
When a man says “YOU KNOW HOW BAD MY MEMORY IS.”
He means: ” I can remember the theme song to ‘Hogan’s Heroes’, the phone # of the first girl I ever kissed & the vehicle identification numbers of every car I ever owned – but yes, I forgot your birthday”
When a man says ’OH, DON’T FUSS, I JUST CUT MYSELF. IT’S NO BIG DEAL”
He means: “I have probably severed a limb, but I will bleed to death before I admit I’m hurt, so get over here and help me!”
When a man says ’I CAN’T FIND IT.’’
He means: “It didn’t fall into my outstretched hand, so I’m completely clueless”
When a man says “I HEARD YOU.”
He means: “I haven’t the foggiest clue what you just said and I am hoping desperately that I can fake it well enough so that you’ll not spend the next 3 days yelling at me.”
When a man says “YOU KNOW I COULD NEVER LOVE ANYONE ELSE”
He means: “I am used to the way you yell at me and realize it could be worse.”
When a man says “YOU LOOK TERRIFIC!”
He means: “Oh please don’t try on one more outfit, we’re late and I’m starving.”
When a man says “I’M NOT LOST. I KNOW EXACTLY WHERE WE ARE.’’
He means: “No one will ever see us alive again.”
When a man says “I don’t think I can go today.”
He means: Shopping is NOT a sport, and no, I am never going to think of it that way.
When a man says, “I don’t remember saying that.”
It’s because he means: “Anything I may have said 6 months ago is inadmissible in an argument. In fact, all past comments become null and void after 7 days.”
When a man says, “that’s not what I meant.”
He means: “If something I said can be interpreted two ways, and one of the ways makes you sad or angry, I meant the other one.
If your husband says, “honey, what color is this?”
He means: ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. I have no idea what “taupe” is.
We thank God today for the good men He’s sent us here.
Read the full text here, or better yet, listen to the audio.
*At the end of the sermon it clarifies that the men listening aren’t in the category of good men, and invites the men listening to become good men. The sermon reinforces that there are not actually any good men by quoting Ezekiel 22:30 twice, once in the beginning and again at the end of the sermon:
And I sought for a man among them, that should make up the hedge, and stand in the gap before me for the land, that I should not destroy it: but I found none.
I am not looking forward to Fathers day at Church. I I know what’s probably coming. I’ve mentioned before that a sermon recently on forgiveness and started with “Stupid things men say”. Not only that, he stared with “we’ll pick on the men. We don’t want to upset the women now, know what I’m say’n”?
After the third “joke” I walked out.
Thank God my wife was working in the nursery and didn’t have to hear it. I told my wife what he did, and she said “we’ll that’s just sad”. I emailed the pastor about it and never got a response. No surprise there.
Can you IMAGINE to outrage from the women if he would have started with “stupid things women say”?
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Why are you still attending this feminist shitpile? What sort of example are you setting to your children, giving this cuck priest money, and accepting him as an authority, to teach your family in religious matters?
Don’t attend feminist church services, and don’t give the priests any of your money.
Boxer
” I can remember the theme song to ‘Hogan’s Heroes’
How old is this sermon? How old is this preacher? Same problem I had with Patterson’s “two black eyes” remark, what century are these guys living in?
Rational objections aside, the whole sermon as with many other “bash dumb dad” examples is a big tangled ball of emotion that a preacher dumps out onto the church. It amuses, entertains women and children plus childish men. Is entertaining women the actual purpose of a sermon?
But really…”Hogan’s Heroes”? Is that somewhere on Netflix? Is it still floating around cable TV on reruns? Why not the theme song to “I Love Lucy” too? Part of the problem might be aging Boomer preachers who never really grew up, and therefore are still in their own “F-YOU, DAD” phase from college rebellion circa 1965 – 1975.
Frankly I do not see why a church would make much to-do of a holiday that mainly exists to sell greeting cards.
“Fathers day is coming up…….so men, if you forgot to help out at home, take the trash out, wasted a Saturday watching TV, and did not do anything special for your wife on ‘Mothers Day’ you will probably get what you deserve…………again, we have to acknowledge all the single mom’s here that have to be dads as well. Women wear many hats, but wearing the one that is fatherhood is extra special………so we will be acknowleging all the single moms who are giving 1000% everyday as well. Remember, Mary was a single mom!”
Thunderous applause and cheers.
Salvation Army “announcements” this past Sunday during the meeting. I got up and left the meeting after this statement.
Here is how my State/Commonwealth celebrates Father’s Day:
http://southwestpasaysnomore.org/initiative/fathers-day-pledge-to-end-gender-violence/
“Father’s Day Pledge PA is a statewide campaign, organized by Pennsylvania Coalition Against Domestic Violence (PCADV), PA Says No More and Southwest PA Says No More, to end domestic violence and sexual assault. It is an opportunity for men to join women in taking action to end violence.”
Yes, a total skank ho single mom, complete with Tinder profile and a welfare check. It’s all right there in the New Testament.
Also, compare and contrast the next Disney film with this story from the UK:
http://toofab.com/2018/06/04/wreck-it-ralph-2-trailer-feminist-disney-princesses/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5812075/Fashion-bosss-fury-white-middle-class-men-left-attacked-busy-Tube.html
@ Anonymous Reader
“Rational objections aside, the whole sermon as with many other “bash dumb dad” examples is a big tangled ball of emotion that a preacher dumps out onto the church. It amuses, entertains women and children plus childish men. Is entertaining women the actual purpose of a sermon?”
DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER.
I don’t understand how anyone with an IQ above room temperature can find this trite, hackneyed bs funny. I can’t speak for the average quality of Protestant sermons, but I’ve noticed a sharp decline in reverence and pertinence to the Gospel reading in the homilies from priests in Novus Ordo Catholic Churches. If you happen to get a reverent priest they’re usually very young or African. The Jazzhand boomers are the ones cracking jokes. The FSSP and Byzantines still know the purpose of a homily tho.
But really…”Hogan’s Heroes”? Is that somewhere on Netflix? Is it still floating around cable TV on reruns?
Well, Dennis Prager is still mining Leave It to Beaver for role models.
But yeah, you can find old shows up the dial. I flipped past a Gunsmoke rerun this morning, on channel 700 something, buried amid some Spanish language channels.
This past year, I discovered lots of British TV horror anthologies from the 1960s – 1970s, mostly on YouTube. Recently I’ve been watching Journey to the Unknown episodes from 1968-69.
Interesting, how so many of the male characters on these old shows “sexually harass” the women, asking them for dates in the workplace, complimenting them on their dress, making jokes about women’s equality. The women huff and puff, then smile and agree to a date.
Well, Dennis Prager is still mining Leave It to Beaver for role models.
Exactly. Ol’ Dennis was born in 1948. He’s 69 years old. Same age more or less as Bill Clinton. Close in age to John Piper and Doug Wilson. Of course having been divorced twice, Prager is for sure the go-to expert on marriage…
Anyway.
How old is Pastor “Hogan’s Heroes”, I wonder? Is there a pattern we can see? Cluelessness isn’t limited to any one age group, but still…how old is he? Yeah, this is a rhetorical question.
Churches hate fathers.
This seems on-topic.
http://babylonbee.com/news/man-forced-to-give-up-headship-of-home-after-failing-to-open-jar-of-peanut-butter/
If you happen to get a reverent priest they’re usually very young or African.
Yes, that has been the experience in my Catholic church. The two regular priests are both Nigerian born (one, over 80 years old — he “retired” upon turning 75, but then continued with a full schedule of masses.)
They are both theologically conservative. They never single out women for praise. Maybe a few nice words about mothers on Mother’s Day. Never do they bash men or fathers. Never do they discuss dating or relationship issues, much less calls to “man up.” No standup routine. Just old fashioned stuff urging humility, prayer, works of charity, and how life is about enduring hardships and suffering (e.g., cancer, poverty), as though it were a normal thing rather than “abuse.”
The older priest often warns of the devil, regarding it a real entity. He has specifically condemned gay marriage.
We once had a guest priest, a 50ish white American. I literally didn’t know what he was talking about. Just a string of non sequiturs that formed a mushy pile of New Age psychobabble. I couldn’t follow his reasoning, or discern what point he was trying to make. I remember him saying weird stuff like, “Ooooo, ooooo, we’re scared. So scaaary.”
I felt embarrassed for him.
I spoke at our church on Father’s Day last year, with this exact problem in mind. I think many here would appreciate it. http://www.mattrob.com/fatherhood-before-the-foundation-of-the-world/
The basic premise is that God gives his own name to fathers, and that is an awesome privilege. Also that creation itself is founded on the idea of fatherhood, that the Father sent his Son.
Am I the only one who noticed that these “jokes” have more truth in them if they were about women? The picture of men they paint is a capricious pseudo-narcissist.
I am not looking forward to Fathers day at Church.
For heaven’s sake, DON’T GO!!! If you’re familiar enough with how your church works that you know that your pastor is going to turn into a peanut butter-spined cuck and hate on the men who make his church function,why put yourself through that? YOU WOULD JUST BE BEGGING TO BE DISRESPECTED.
While common sense would seem to dictate that you follow Boxer’s advice, I realize that this might not be an immediate option. Still, do yourself a favor and spend Father’s Day doing something that YOU ENJOY DOING. My church is by no means ultra-feminist, but I’ve already told my wife that I’m staying home on the third Sunday in June. I’m not about to risk having my day ruined and having to make a scene.
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@feeriker
I get your point. But I’m the type that can’t run. If I hear man-bashing, I’m going to say something about it.
Besides that, I’m teaching in my Sunday school adult class on Fathers Day. (our kids are grown and gone). Rest assured the subject matter will include the red pill. It’s really the perfect Sunday to teach.
Sometimes, a Church is a mission field. I know missionaries working in some very dangerous countries. The least I can do is go to Church and teach the truth. I’ve done it before without fallout.
Someone has to do it. And if i do it, others may follow. If I don’t do it, them I’m part of the problem.
Red Pill Latecomer says:
June 8, 2018 at 1:49 pm
I think that it’s a general given that both Catholic priests and Protestant pastors who hail from what we would call the Thitd World (or from parts of the world not traditionally Christian) take Scripture and their faith much more seriously than those in the West where “Christianity” has essentially been co-opted by the State and the culture as a pseudo-secular institution, perverted beyond it’s original form so as to be unrecognizable. It certainly lacks the direct persecution that the Faith requires in order to remain pure and focused, let alone thrive. Www w
Your African-born priest undoubtedly knows what real persecution is and has experienced it at some point in his life, unlike the white Boomer, who may very well have been a Marxist “plant” in some seminary somewhere.
For heaven’s sake, DON’T GO!!!
Agreed. Why the hell should Joe go? Is he that pussywhipped?
Prerequisites to being a Good Mother:
Being a woman, functioning as a woman, taking responsibility as a woman, thinking like a woman, acting like a woman, raising children like a woman, all of these are prerequisites to being a good Mother!
You will not be a good Mother until you are a good Woman. It’s a dying art today…there are not many in our nation anymore. Thank God we DO have a few good women here…we can always use a few more!
Joe @ 2:40 pm:
“I’m teaching in my Sunday school adult class on Fathers Day. … And if i do it, others may follow.”
If they allow you to teach then you have the chance to do some good. Most of us are not so fortunate.
Burner Prime says:
June 8, 2018 at 4:25 pm
Would that any cucked churchian CEO had the balls to deliver that message in a Mother’s Day sermon.
Joe says:
June 8, 2018 at 2:40 pm
Glad to hear that you’re in a position to do some good. My prayers are with you to touch some hearts and souls as a teacher.
As for Mothers Day/Fathers Day messages, I really, REALLY wish that the churches would just leave secular holidays alone.
Anon says:
June 8, 2018 at 3:25 pm
For heaven’s sake, DON’T GO!!!
Agreed. Why the hell should Joe go? Is he that pussywhipped?
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No. I’m just not a coward who shirks from a battle.
So I’ll teach on fathers day, and infuse it with red pill, as I’ve done before. Like Paul did, and Peter, and the rest who were murdered for the cause of Christ. They and many others sacfraficed their lives. It’s the least I can do when others gave so much. If I were pussy whipped, I’d run from the. That’s what pussys do. Run, or do nothing.
What are you doing? Sitting at home? Running from the battle?
Are you that pussy whipped?
Dear Joe:
This isn’t a battle that you can win. Just by fighting it, you are acknowledging the authority of the feminists over your family and children. There is no reason to do this, and every reason not to.
Best,
Boxer
IMO, no “Hallmark holidays” of any stripe should be acknowledged at all, much less ‘celebrated.’
Off Topic: False rape accuser is going to jail.
https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/08/false-rape-accuser-heading-prison/
The proper sentence for a false accuser is in the Old Testament. She should receive the sentence that her victims would have received if they’d been found guilty. Of course, that’ll never happen.
Great post. Like last year’s, it helps a man see the big picture.
I left a church after 9 years of fighting the hen house. Pastor and elders focused outward, equipping, teaching, and disciplining members to spread the gospel. Cue nepotism. Hired an elder’s wife to run the children’s ministry. She and her cronies staged the usual feminist coup. Pastor and elders now focused inward, keeping the chickens calm and haaaaappy.
Lather, rinse, repeat.
Joe says: I’ve mentioned before that a sermon recently on forgiveness and started with “Stupid things men say”. Not only that, he stared with “we’ll pick on the men. We don’t want to upset the women now, know what I’m say’n”?
After the third “joke” I walked out.
Thank you for getting up and walking out. Hopefully a lot of people saw that and got it.
I’m glad you teach the Red Pill in Sunday School. You need to keep walking out when that crap happens. But at some point if you keep walking out, you become the joke, when you keep coming back. You visibly showing your allegiance to the place by your continued attendance and you may encourage those who look up to you to likewise keep coming there. At some point if you do not turn the tide, you may need to walk out and not walk back in the next week like you’ve got short term memory loss. There is nothing cowardly about being wise and finding a better place to give your fellowship. I fellowship here for right now. And I just taught a short Red Pill Sunday School lesson here:
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2018/06/06/it-would-be-unchivalrous-to-tell-her-no/#comment-275622
Sharkly Says: June 8, 2018 at 7:53 pm
Y’all are welcome.
But at some point if you keep walking out, you become the joke, when you keep coming back.
Wisdom. The hens peck their “leader” husbands, then they Blue Falcon/throw you under the bus at the very first opportunity. Watch your back sir, been there. Lost the t-shirt along with the 401k in a frivorce.
“Fathers are Jokes.” And so the church has made the Heavenly Father. “Hath God Said?” Well, Hell no.
Mothers are the agent of Satan. Fathers are the agent of God.
the worship of women continues…
Men do not know anything, they need women’s training
Off Topic: Women who refuse to have babies to save the planet.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5819361/Women-refuse-babies-save-planet.html
If she really believes all of that, then wouldn’t suicide be an even better solution?
IMO, no “Hallmark holidays” of any stripe should be acknowledged at all, much less ‘celebrated.’
If we insist on keeping both of these wretched holidays, let’s combine them into “Parents Day” and make it strictly unisex (after all, we enlightened moderns know that there’s no difference between Mom and Dad and that their roles are interchangeable, right?).
Make it unisex and schedule it every year for the sixth Sunday in Muharram.
The proper sentence for a false accuser is in the Old Testament. She should receive the sentence that her victims would have received if they’d been found guilty. Of course, that’ll never happen.
I can’t find the reference on line, but I remember reading several years ago about a woman in Pakistan being sentenced to be raped for some bizarre Shariah-based violation. It made me think that this would be the ideal punishment for any woman who knowingly and maliciously falsely accused a man of rape. Only one or two women would ever have to be so punished every decade to put a nearly complete stop to the false accusation epidemic.
feeriker says: “sentenced to be raped”
Yes, Judge, I know I’ve been a bad man. My masculine behavior was beyond toxic. I deserve to be gang raped by at least three or four hot and horny women, to the fullest extent allowed by law. This will surely send a warning to all my no-good drinking buddies when they hear of my wild night of non-stop animalistic sex at the hands of a bevy of eager women exploiting me as their sexual plaything. But, please, please, don’t let them objectivize me, Your Honor.
…
Did you hear about the recent crime wave? I wonder what is making these young Incel men so criminally inclined now?
@opus vitae
The “translations” struck me as how irritable women interpret the original statements rather what men really mean by them.
this is a Christian women- her theology is from John Macarthur’s church
she hates men
today she tweeted
so fathers/men
kill yourself….
I like that Ezekial reference. Did no men stand in the gap because they were all soy boys, or did they realize that there was nothing worth saving?
The “translations” struck me as how irritable women interpret the original statements rather what men really mean by them.
Correct. I had the exact same thought while reading through that.
Oscar-
The four pillars of the church of euthanasia are suicide, abortion, cannibalism, sodomy. Warning, NSFW:
http://www.churchofeuthanasia.org/
Ah yes, male-bashing jokes. We’re expected to sit back and laugh along, lest we be accused of having no sense of humor. I might be able to talk myself into doing that if, occasionally, women were expected to do the same. But if you reversed the sexes and told similar jokes about women, how much “sense of humor” would we see in them? They’d be apoplectic with rage, it would be the stuff of lawsuits.
I’ll never forget the reaction I got when I protested a male-bashing joke that a female friend of mine–one who doesn’t consider herself a feminist–told. She rolled her eyes: “Come on, Roger, it’s just a JOKE!” So, I tested a reverse joke on her, and she was not amused. “That’s different!” The only difference is that the shoe is on the other foot.
but yet they still want to be married.
I guess that for them, destroying a man is good enough…
Just to make sure mothers are not “left out” on Father;$ Day.
https://j4mb.org.uk/2018/06/07/so-no-one-is-left-out-card-that-says-happy-fathers-day-mum/
Or Mexican/Hispanic.
We have one gringo, one African and one Mexican Priest. While the Gringo, who is older, isn’t bad, he’s eclipsed by the other two.
The local seminary has about 80 young men studying for the priesthood. I personally know three of them. They are very reverent.
This Father’s Day I expect at my church to hear what I hear every Father’s Day – the pastor preaching through the next passage in whatever book we’re in, just like the Sunday before and after. If the passage says something about fatherhood, he might mention it in passing, but no joke, no insult. Same for Mother’s Day, 4th of July, etc. Nothing special, and therefore very special indeed.
Delicious article here:
https://nypost.com/2017/05/13/childish-men-are-to-blame-for-women-having-kids-late-in-life/
Damn Crackers, I have to admit that I got a chilly sense of satisfaction from that second link. Feminists need men like fish need bicycles – let them prove it.
@ Scott
“Save the world. Kill yourself.”
I’ve pointed out to environmentalists that suicide is the logical conclusion of their beliefs. For some reason, it always shocks and offends them.
“This isn’t a battle that you can win. Just by fighting it, you are acknowledging the authority of the feminists over your family and children. There is no reason to do this, and every reason not to.”
I agree,the bible says “come out of her (whore church of Babylon) and shop yourselves a people set apart.”
The whore (church) of Babylon sits on the shore with one leg on land (money) and one leg in the water (the people)
You can starve that beast by your absence as the Bible recommends.
They believe that if we all just became green socialists that we would be able to usher in a Star Trek like utopia, where money doesn’t even exist.
FWIW, outside of the Anglican communion, it is my understanding that Protestant ministers do not consider themselves priests and would blanch at being called priests,
Just to make sure mothers are not “left out” on Father;$ Day.
https://j4mb.org.uk/2018/06/07/so-no-one-is-left-out-card-that-says-happy-fathers-day-mum/
Once again, if we insist on keeping this damned holiday, make it unisex. Problem solved
There’s plenty of information available online for Christian men to assess both culture and church, and that’s been the case for many years. I have no more sympathy for who men who insist on attending a Real Church (a building), despite being constantly demeaned and hoodwinked by these jive, weakling Bible Skool pastors.
Many men continue to attend false churches that despise them, and use them only as foils to please and placate Almighty Woman. These men are not sufficiently strong in the LORD to leave the comfort of The Group and their apostate churches, and strike out on their own journey towards God. I don’t want to hear any more whining and excuses from men whose ‘churches’ mock them and treat them badly, after which they return the following week for more beatdowns. Jesus ain’t in your buildings, get it?
Stop complaining about something that’s beyond restoration. Tell the punk pastors off and walk, already.
@ Opus Vitae
They ARE about “women”… and are also about (and are a psychological “projection” of & from) the (so called) “only REAL man in the room” — i.e. the over-schooled, essentially feminized (and “feminist-ed”; self-castrated) and essentially incompetent at everything but babbling, chattering, and pandering to women — the “PASTOR” of the church.
jazzdrive3 — “The basic premise is that God gives his own name to fathers, and that is an awesome privilege.”
Indeed. A privilege that comes with rights. And I don’t mean civil rights. I mean the kind that the State and the gynarchy can’t take away from you, when convenient to their schemes.
‘Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name’. What name? His double-secret magical name, that only the Throne angels know?
No. The name we are hallowing, making holy and asking to be made holy, is ‘Father’.
I think you will appreciate this Dalrock… http://teagardenpillowtalk.com
I thought Anglicans have Vicars. Somehow that seems less Papist.
My friend told me yesterday that he had bumped into his local vicar and that both were lost for words. This surprised me greatly as a Vicar always has the perfect line, namely “I don’t seem to have seen you at church lately”. It is a lovely church too. Good line of work for not only does the Vicar receive a stipend of £23,000 per annum but has the benefit of a grace and favour house – that is to say free accommodation and those old vicarages are always highly desirable places in which to live. The Vicarage, Much-binding-on-the Marsh has a certain ring to it and is sure to be a winner in the postcode lottery.
Off topic:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/31605/watch-two-transgenders-blow-out-girls-state-meet-hank-berrien
In the nest couple of years a boy in a dress will apply to college and demand his Title IX privileges as a “woman”. The results should be interesting.
Best part of the article:
Dear Dalrock.
Remember the White Trashionalist* who advocated for paternity fraud against white males in order to increase the white birthrate? :
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2011/10/29/authority-always-comes-with-responsibility-whether-you-accept-it-or-not/#comment-18436
Well, he is still pushing that meme :
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2018/06/09/comment-of-the-week-ten-years-of-a-womans-best-for-fifty-years-of-her-worst/#comment-995769
Plus, that thread shows that a lot of White Nationalists agree with him. They are certainly no friend of white men (or white children, for that matter, for they think single motherhood vs. two-parent families are identical in terms of quality of outcome for the child).
More proof that race nationalism (of any race) is really just a form of feminism.
*This portmantaeu is apt given the a) extreme concentration of underachievers, ne’er do wells, incels, and homosexuals** among White Nationalists, and b) their willingness to absolve white women of even the worst irresponsibility.
**Jack Donovan has explained in detail why this is the case.
Explain to me why men go to church these days?
If we insist on keeping both of these wretched holidays, let’s combine them into “Parents Day” and make it strictly unisex (after all, we enlightened moderns know that there’s no difference between Mom and Dad and that their roles are interchangeable, right?).
My father had the right idea in his day….once, close to Mother’s Day, he and my mom were walking through a Hallmark store….my dad paused, picked up a card, handed it to my mom and said, “Here, read this, and save me $3.95.”
[White Nationalists]
I don’t even understand this crap. No offense to the WN brothers here (I know there are a great many of you), but it makes no sense.
What the OP seems to be promoting is cuckoldry. White people should smile and nod when their sisters/daughters/wives screw around on their husbands… so long as they’re screwing White Nationalist men (gee – I wonder who this benefits). If you get mad about raising Adolf’s biological kid, you should blame some random Jewish or Black dude.
Sick.
Boxer
Boxer,
It seems that the congruence between White Nationalism and feminism is total, as long as white women don’t date outside the race.
Yes, the original commenter openly says cuckolding is good as long as a white baby is produced. Not only is this a disenfrancisement of the white man being cuckolded, but assumes 100% nature and 0% nurture, since the child obviously won’t have a great upbringing.
Since WNs are overwhelmingly incel/low SMV men (not counting the large homosexual contingent among them), a lot of this is sour grapes, i.e. since I can’t get laid, I want the lives of men who can get laid to be poor. That, plus a belief that whiteknighting is attractive to women (i.e. similar to church cuckservatives) leads to the formation of a fully feminist ideology.
When a man says “IT WOULD TAKE TOO LONG TO EXPLAIN”
He means: “I have no idea how it works”
Have these pastors ever tried to explain anything to a woman? It genuinely takes an incredibly long time to explain even simple concepts to them. Particularly if its anything masculine, they just aren’t going to understand on a deep level.
Vaguely related:
Rad fem says it’s just peachy to openly, unresevervedly, hate [apparently all] men:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.876f168f41bb
“Suzanna Danuta Walters, a professor of sociology and director of the Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University, is the editor of the gender studies journal Signs.”
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Self-explanatory: https://pjmedia.com/trending/feminists-now-want-to-rename-female-body-parts-because-they-were-named-by-men/
@Robert
they like being castrated…
I just had one nut at church tell me men who don’t take paternity leave don’t love their wives or kids…
men never took paternity leave for millenia because they used to have wives who loved them and who were not lazy….
he got so angry…
I also said a man who takes paternity leave should not be surprised if he is unemployed because another man overseas who does not take “paternity leave” takes his job
Anon says:
June 9, 2018 at 7:11 pm
“Since WNs are overwhelmingly incel/low SMV men (not counting the large homosexual contingent among them)”
You misspelled “liberals” as WNs.
Actually, WNs, like other conservative white men, are more likely than the average American to have served in the police or military, and to have been in combat arms if they did mil service. And, the more conservative (politically or religious) white American men are, the more children they tend to have.
How could you have not known these facts before running your mouth on this subject?
Actually, the RCC has vicars too. The Priest in charge of a parish is the pastor and any other Priests associated with the parish are vicars.
From wikipedia: “Vicar is the title given to certain parish priests in the Church of England. It has played a significant role in Anglican Church organisation in ways that are different from other Christian denominations.”
“Historically, Anglican parish priests were divided into rectors, vicars and (rarely) perpetual curates.”
Luke, the conclusion of that emotional piece is just great:
Sure, toots. Pardon me while I laugh.
Next time the power goes off at her house during a thunderstorm, she’ll suddenly want some stinky man to be in charge of putting it back on. None of that “get in the bucket truck and ride up to 4,000 volt power lines in the rain” for little princess. To pick but one example…I’m sure she has no problem with some knuckle-dragging man being in charge of throwing chain on the oil rigs from Texas to North Dakota in all weather conditions, either.
Just another hypocritical feminist who wants her fried ice nice and hot.
Here’s a video from the early 1950’s for the like of spoiled, special-snowflake princess Suzanna Danuta Walters. But everyone else is free to enjoy it.
The looks on the actual girls’ faces is PRICELESS!
Men are better at being women than women are, apparently.
Luke,
You misspelled “liberals” as WNs.
One and the same. They are male feminists with left-wing economic views. They support cuckolding, as the link I provided proves.
Remember, it is an ideology that is 99% male. Given that female participation is essential to their vision, and the majority of what they whine about is ‘miscegenation’, the loserdom inherent to WN is a widely-known fact. It is in direct contradiction to Men’s Rights in most cases.
Remember, Boxer already demolished you for being a nerd like other WNs, so you are part of the general consensus on WNs.
No need for lines separating male and female activities, right ladies?
In the nest couple of years a boy in a dress will apply to college and demand his Title IX privileges as a “woman”. The results should be interesting.
That’s what I’ve been saying. Should be good to bring wrestling back to more universities. Men will enroll as male lesbians and wrestle for the women’s teams…with scholarships.
Should be good to bring wrestling back to more universities. Men will enroll as male lesbians and wrestle for the women’s teams…with scholarships.
As a bonus, then the “girls” will finally be able to out-lift men in the weight room…
”Jim Christian says:
June 8, 2018 at 12:42 pm
Churches hate fathers.”
They that treat fathers with contempt treat the Father of our Lord with contempt. And our Lord for treating his father with contempt.
Ephesian 3:15-16
”And I bow my knees to The Father of Our Lord Yeshua The Messiah, 15 Him from whom every fatherhood is named, that is in Heaven and in Earth,”
http://biblehub.com/aramaic-plain-english/ephesians/3.htm
As an antidote to the father-hate, I commend to readers with younger children an old cartoon I stumbled upon this week: The Swiss Family Robinson, available on Amazon Prime. I think because it’s a product of Japan, there is no self-consciousness in presenting the family as straight-forwardly Christian, with overt references to faith and trust in God. (But not heavy-handed, like some Focus on the Family special.)
But what really blew me away was the presentation of the father: strong, confident, kind, honorable, and wise. And with total support from the mother. (“I don’t know, my dear, but I know your father can find a way. I believe he can do anything.”) To me this straightforward presentation of positive, competent male headship was even more surprising than the references to prayer.
As if to further drive the point home, in one episode, en route to Australia, we’re introduced to a family that’s about to break up because the wife is having second thoughts about moving away from England. She tells her husband that she’s getting off the ship with their daughter at the next port, and he can choose to join them or continue on to Australia on his own. The daughter, who has befriended the Robinsons, is torn between her two parents (in a clear allusion to divorce). So the Robinson kids play a trick that gets the mother and daughter locked up in the “brig” for a few days, during which time mom has a change of heart, and the family is reconciled. Neither of these parents are presented super sympathetically, but the message is clear that the wife has a duty to follow her husband.
A pastor/bishop/overseer should be:
1 Timothy 3:4 One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)
If deacons are to be grave and pastors are to live “with all gravity” Do we really need them impersonating comedians and beclowning themselves for laughs? The world should find them foolish enough, without them attempting to make funny business of their profession.
Besides the fools all tell the same jokes, and if you’ve been in church all your life, you’ve already heard their dumb jokes before.
Pastor: The Sadducees didn’t believe in the resurrection of the dead.
Pastor: And that’s why they’re “sad you see!”(Sadducee)
Pastor: why aren’t you laughing, Sharkly?
Sharkly: Because I’ve heard a lot of other pastors tell that same lame joke, and many of them told it better. Furthermore, I can find better entertainment on TV. I came here today hoping you might teach me something, but instead you were just entertaining, and mostly because of how you lack the self awareness to see what a fool you’re being.
Pastor: but didn’t you like my analogy about slowly boiling the frog?
Sharkly: No. It doesn’t work.
Pastor: What do you mean?
Sharkly: I’ve tried it, with a double broiler even, and the frog always jumps out.
Pastor: What?
Sharkly They’re cold blooded, when the water gets warm they get more active and they jump out. Every time! The only way you can boil them is with the lid on, and you can hear them hitting the lid.
Pastor: That’s not true! Why would you do that?
Sharkly: Because even as a child I wasn’t ignorant enough to believe that a frog would sit in a pot of water and get boiled alive. So I tried it out. Get a new sermon illustration, and this time verify it before you use it.
Pastor: You know, you should show your pastor more respect.
Sharkly: And you shouldn’t insult the intelligence of your audience with lame jokes and borrowed sermon illustrations that aren’t even true.
Sigh. WN American men (or, Alt-White) are very predominantly ANTI-socialist, commonly ranging from Libertarian to Constitutionalist to just being close to what was typical conservatism 60 years ago. The Alt-Reich (Nazi flag wavers) are nearly the only socialists in there, and they are about as tiny a fringe as the Westboro Baptist nuts are among Protestantism.
Me a nerd? Sure. Two science degrees and earning my living as a scientist arguably qualifies me as one. But, I am close to 2 score for chicks I’ve bedded in my life. I’m also currently married (nearly 8 years) in my second marriage, with 4 kids genetically mine walking the Earth. Oh, and I spent much of high school in military school, spent the 5-month winter near the Canadian border in a cabin with my only heat a wood stove fueled solely by wood I cut by hand without power tools, d hiked the whole Appalachian Trail some years ago, and have spent over 6 years outside the U.S. in close to 20 different countries (working in 5+ of them), so I’m hardly a chairborne incel in this life.
@Luke
The ones Anon encountered slobber all over themselves over the “white goddess” not a good look for WN if that’s how they treat their women.
@Anon
What’s the best source you can point to that proves that those types want all-white bathhouses?
Hi, Info. The most common positions among WNs IMO re women (certainly for explicit red-pill ones) re women would be that women who A) don’t have white children within marriage, and B) who oppose (culturally, politically, theologically, legally) the doctrines needed for white survival are useless at best, and enemies very commonly. As Roger Devlin puts it, just being a biological woman deserves no respect; it’s competently filling a social role (that normally women are the only ones to fill) that does.
If you want to refer to historical European terminology, Kinder, Küche, Kirche is a German slogan translated as “children, kitchen, church”, and apt enough. Certainly, American women eschewing roles as genuine wives and mothers to instead be horrid fake versions of men (and rent-seeking parasites and frauds) is seen as highly nonconstructive by those who know the term.
https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2018/june-web-only/case-for-electing-beth-moore-southern-baptist-sbc-president.html
Here it is folks. Knew it was coming. The SBC is a joke.
At Catholic mass this morning, no mention of fathers or Father’s Day.
The sermon included the Garden of Eden. The Nigerian priest observed that both Adam and Eve tried to blame someone else for their sin. Adam blamed Eve. Eve blamed the serpent. But, said the priest, each was responsible for their own sin. Evil tempts us, but if we give in to temptation, we have only ourselves to blame.
Pretty much the same message here, from the old Jesuit who says mass at mine. While he didn’t mention the holiday specifically, he did close by alluding to fatherhood as a blessing, and encouraged us to remember our parents. Pretty good.
I’ve been underwhelmed by the supposed patriarchal devotion of African priests. I’ve listened to a couple now, and they seem just as inclined to feminism as their pozzed out SWPL colleagues.
Boxer
Chivalry is misogyny, according to Cambridge feminist Mary Beard: https://www.thecut.com/2018/06/mary-beard-interview.html
when I was 16 or 17, one of the things we were always getting cross about was having doors held open for us. I thought, “I can fucking well open the door by myself.” And you tried telling that to men, and it was a surprising issue of contention. It was all about how they saw themselves not only as protecting women, but they saw themselves in a kind of tradition of what they would call “chivalry.” And when you try to explain that the history of chivalry is actually a history of disempowering women, there was non-comprehension.
Boxer: I’ve been underwhelmed by the supposed patriarchal devotion of African priests. I’ve listened to a couple now, and they seem just as inclined to feminism as their pozzed out SWPL colleagues.
I have heard a theory that African tribal society was matriarchal. I don’t know if that’s true.
@bdash77,
“they [church going husbands and fathers] like being castrated”
Personally I tend to stay away from places where it is clear I am despised. Which is why I don’t go many places these days … har!
I think men need to start male only churches.
A new World War 2 video game features a kick-ass woman soldier: http://fandom.wikia.com/articles/battlefield-v-is-right-to-include-women?li_source=LI&li_medium=wikia-rail
Women have always played a vital role in the World’s wars, and to ignore that is to be willfully ignorant. From soldiers enlisted in active duty to subversive volunteer groups formed wholly of women, (in)famous Soviet snipers to women providing artillery support for their male comrades, these wars were not won by men alone. …
if ‘realism’ really is your argument for not wanting to include women, disabled people or people of colour, you don’t have an argument — many groups of people fought (and died) in World War II… it wasn’t just straight white men.
I wasn’t aware that anyone ever claimed that World War 2 was only fought by “straight, white men.” World War 2 films, TV shows, and video games have always included Japanese, Chinese, and even black soldiers.
Granted, not too many uncloseted gays, women, or trannies. But I assume all of that will be “corrected” over time.
Off Topic: They told me I was an alarmist when I said the perverts would attack the churches next.
http://www.wnd.com/2018/05/it-begins-church-sued-for-refusing-to-host-lgbt-event/
They told me I was an alarmist when I said the perverts would attack the churches next.
And we know that most churchian franchises will cave when threatened with lawsuits.
I keep telling people: the true New Testament church is going to revert to its First Century form in order to survive. No more accommodating the World. That is what has led to situations like that described in the linked article.
With the thinly-veiled contempt (and hatred) displayed by these churches towards husbands and fathers nowadays, why are those same churches so surprised that fewer men are wanting to become husbands (and fathers)?
It might have something to do with the reason that the women who “didn’t need a man” in their twenties through their early thirties, are often single in their forties.
Betrothed to Joseph. Oh and didn’t Jesus mention who His Father was a few times in the Gospel?
‘At Catholic mass this morning, no mention of fathers or Father’s Day.’
Isn’t Father’s Day next Sunday?
Did he clarify to whom the man listens to that makes him a good man?
@ Earl,
I promise to have nothing but undying admiration for any “single mom”, provided that the angel Gabriel personally tells me she’s pregnant with the immaculately conceived incarnation of God.
Isn’t Father’s Day next Sunday?
So it is. There was so much talk about it, I assumed it was this Sunday.
I’m not too aware of the actual days for Father’s or Mother’s Day. Both my parents are dead, and I’ve no wife or children, so I’ve no reason to keep track.
With the thinly-veiled contempt (and hatred) displayed by these churches towards husbands and fathers nowadays, why are those same churches so surprised that fewer men are wanting to become husbands (and fathers)?
It might have something to do with the reason that the women who “didn’t need a man” in their twenties through their early thirties, are often single in their forties.
Is it really surprising that in a thoroughly feminized organization like the typical western church, no one, male or female, grasps cause and effect?
@Roger
Ah yes, male-bashing jokes. We’re expected to sit back and laugh along, lest we be accused of having no sense of humor. I might be able to talk myself into doing that if, occasionally, women were expected to do the same.
Won’t happen. Just click on Dalrock’s link to read the rest of the sermon and you’ll understand why. There are even more gems to be found in the rest of that pastor’s text. Including stuff like this:
And then there’s this:
You won’t hear a pastor like this making any jokes at the women’s expense because it’s impossible that he could even consider that a woman is capable of behaving badly. That’s why the man-bashing is there in his sermon: Because at a root level, he really does believe that males are just a pitifully lower-developed form of sub-human, even the ones who are still just boys. And he will never feel an ounce of guilt for telling them so himself.
I’m no fan of Richard Dawkins, but when sermons like this are the order of the day I’m almost willing to agree with him that taking a kid to church is tantamount to child abuse.
Just a small nit. The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception is not the virgin birth of Jesus. It is the notion that Mary was conceived without Original Sin. It’s a common misconception.
I think that it was a given once they co opted the state. In case anyone is not already aware of this, our consulates and embassies around the world are flying the homosexual flag next to old glory during the month of June.
A few months ago I narrowly avoided arrest when I was less than amused that my heterophobic bank had festooned its banking hall with rainbow coloured streamers and other paraphernalia. What I had said and the circumstances surrounding what I said bore no resemblance to what subsequently I was supposed to have said or who was supposed to be listening. The strong empowered female teller to whom I had addressed two very short sentences turned out to be a special snowflake. Imagine my surprise. Neither the Manager who was to treat me far worse than a police officer would deem it appropriate to treat a suspect (that was until the said manager saw the size of my bank balance) and the teller, were not I think, other than heterosexual or as we once said, normal. I find this all very queer indeed incomprehensible.
My friend says that he is not homophobic but I tell him that as he has so far failed to either marry or date a chick with a dick or a man who is not pretending to be otherwise, his protestations of innocence as to the heinous and indictable crime of homophobia run pretty thin.
That’s why the man-bashing is there in his sermon: Because at a root level, he really does believe that males are just a pitifully lower-developed form of sub-human, even the ones who are still just boys. And he will never feel an ounce of guilt for telling them so himself.
They’ve been brainwashed by life-long feminist programming, which makes all of them fundamentally useless as teachers of the Scripture.
If Mary was the typical single mother we have today…what would have happened to Jesus when Herod went on his toddler kiling spree?
Point being if they are using Mary as an arguement for single mothers…they don’t know about Mary or single mothers.
‘Women are like fine silk. Men are more like corduroy. [have you heard the news about corduroy pillows? They’re making headlines!] Silk and corduroy: which is more fragile? Which is more valuable? The answer to both questions is “silk!” ‘
Yeah and I’ve also heard women age like milk and men age like wine. Which is more valuable? The answer is wine.
Anybody can make an arguement that one sex is superior and one is inferior depending on what metaphor they use. Problem is when you do this arguement you present one as a god and the other as sub-human…which isn’t good for either.
We men are bad about trying to be “in control”…to “make things happen.” Often ladies find it easier to “rest in the Lord” and lean on Him for salvation.
So it seems that someone has never read the Dominion Mandate laid out in Genesis. Or other passages such as 2 Kings 13:14-18, Matthew 25:14-30, or Luke 19:11-27.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this guy would be the same one who bashes Barak, even though he clearly was willing to “rest in the Lord.”
These so called ministers don’t know enough of the Scriptures to be ministers for the Lord. That means they are ministers for the world, and the prince of the power of the air.
These so called ministers don’t know enough of the Scriptures to be ministers for the Lord. That means they are ministers for the world, and the prince of the power of the air.
I’d say that it’s a toss-up between them being ignorant of Scripture (usually willfully so) and knowing it, but just flat-out choosing to ignore those parts of it that they don’t like/make them and the World uncomfortable. The end result is the same either way.
Earl
Point being if they are using Mary as an arguement for single mothers…they don’t know about Mary or single mothers.
Or it’s propaganda intended to further normalize babymommas. Some of these people actually know what they are doing.
@ Frank K says:
June 11, 2018 at 12:13 am
“Just a small nit. The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception is not the virgin birth of Jesus. It is the notion that Mary was conceived without Original Sin.”
Yeah, I know. It was a snarky comment, not a theological treatise.
It’s fun to watch an “enlightened progressive” get hit on by a homo. The look of horror on their face is priceless while they fumble, trying to say they’re straight without offending the homoromeo.
Has anyone not been banned from CAF who might have good advice for a married woman who isn’t happy, even though her husband provides for, gives gifts to, talks to, and compliments her?
https://forums.catholic.com/t/silent-marriage-crisis-advice-needed/491601
One can be forgiven for this confusion, as Father’s Day barely hits the radar. Restaurants are not mobbed that day and special events are few and far between.
The local Comic Con is this coming weekend and is often scheduled on Father’s Day weekend (I once exchanged Father’s Day pleasantries with Edward James Olmos at our local Comic Con), but it would NEVER be scheduled for Mother’s Day, because they know there would be an outcry and attendance would take a big hit (it usually draws about 110,000 attendees).
Also notice how Father’s Day is lumped in with school graduations, hence the “Grads n Dads” sales. Nevermind that most graduations are in May and not June,
Has anyone not been banned from CAF
I avoid that pseudo Catholic den of scum and villainy.
Don’t care. That place is a sewer. Infested with feminism. Leave well enough alone. That marriage is now doomed.
This is the kind of advice given to narcissistic women by CAF who are given everything by their husbands. And this is her response. She is vain, entitled and egotistical but no one will call her out, for they know they will be banned.
Oh for fuck sake, would someone give this bitch a tissue.
She wants a ‘get out of marriage’ card. And CAF will happily oblige. That’s all that is.
It shows they only want the rebellious/destructive answer…anything else which doesn’t fit their worldview of rebellion is locked out.
Besides by what authority does an anoymous poster give a woman who wants to divorce the power to divorce. Notice she isn’t seeking legit authority…like a God fearing (or you can take it as a non-feminist) priest.
‘ can he even love me the way I want and need to be loved?’
I guess providing isn’t enough…but she reveals the real answer:
‘When we were dating, engaged, first married I was taken with his professed love and dependency on me. It felt great to be with someone who thought you were the most amazing thing on the planet. Now, it just got old. Though, from the outside, people are so impressed with how highly he speaks of me and what a devoted dad he is.’
She like being treated like a god until she got tired of being treated like a god. Perhaps you shouldn’t treat your wife/gf/crush like a god because they are not a god. They are human beings. This is what I consider the essence of red pill truth and blue pill is keeping women as the god.
Now if you worship the true God…the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and not your wife…you’ll never see this particular thing happen.
It shows they only want the rebellious/destructive answer…anything else which doesn’t fit their worldview of rebellion is locked out.
Quite frankly, if your wife is seeking serious marital advice from anonymous internet strangers at a heretical site like CAF (rather than from the Scriptures or a qualified Christian aughority), it speaks volumes about her lack of discernment and judgement. If she chooses to blow things up, she’s probably doing you a very big favor.
“So no one is left out, a card that says Happy Father’s Day Mum”:
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/970570/card-that-says-happy-father-s-day-mum-for-single-mothers
Fathers are such a joke to some churches, they remove the word altogether.
http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/06/11/united-methodists-remove-father-from-apostles-creed-to-be-more-gender-inclusive-to-god/
Agree. Catholic Answers is a complete joke. Here is an example…
https://v5k2c2.com/2014/06/11/divorce-prep-on-catholic-answers/
The moderators did privatize this thread, but it was only because Dalrock and a couple of others mocked the participants for their hypocrisy.
There are regulars there who not only counsel people to divorce their spouses, but who also excuse abortion-on-demand and other feminist projects. No intelligent person should take them seriously.
Regards,
Boxer
That Nancy Carol Hastings Sehested is a real piece of work. I just fisked a sermon she gave last year, using Elijah to encourage the Charlottesville protests. I couldn’t do her insanities justice in a single comment.
http://gunnerq.com/2018/06/11/wicked-witch-nancy-carol-hastings-sehested/
A bio I found claims she’s a retired chaplain for North Carolina’s men’s med. & maximum security prisons. The red-pilled mind boggles.
Oops, wrong thread. Please delete.
If feminist were unhappy about idiot dad characters in a movie, they must be realizing that if more people take to heart about women/moms are really running things, there’s a lot of responsibility and culpability that comes with that. And they don’t want that.
FH,
It sounds like my ex. Anytime I didn’t agree with here I wasn’t “listening to her.” Clever definition there.
It sounds like my ex. Anytime I didn’t agree with here I wasn’t “listening to her.” Clever definition there.
More cleverness. What they say vs reality:
“He verbally abused me.” = “He told me no once.”
“He emotionally abused me.” = See above
“I loved him too much.” = Tingles waned
“No matter what I did,I couldn’t make him happy.” = “I was making his best friend happy behind his back.”
“God wants me to be happy.” = Choose any of the above.
“He wouldn’t let me find myself.” = “He wouldn’t let me charge two grand on a credit card to pay for a toddler’s birthday party.”
Could go on forever BillyS. Many of us have been there, it’s all the FI. The FI Borg is assimilating the churches, have been for years. Eyes are opened when supposedly devout Christian women say and do the same shit as AWALT.
Oh yeah, I remember that, Boxer. I just wish people posting on these threads would get a clue.
But then, there’s this here: http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2018/06/sober_grad_proudly_receives_diploma_with_her_baby_boy_onstage
Am I a bad man for wondering no one asked after the father of the child or that there’s zero notion of accountability in this woman? Comments at the end, the sheer support this drunken, slutty chubby with a bastard child, celebrating that she finally got her GED. Ya have to read the thing. Complimentarian Christianity is definitely for this one. Who needs fathers?
Has anyone not been banned from CAF
I’ve never been there, but I doubt I’d last more than one post on a Catholic site.
Back in the day I even got booted off a rightwing nutjob site, for being too politically incorrect.
Everybody believes in freedom of speech until I show up! LOL
The realtalking playa, Mr. Og Ustin, is always a good first start.
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1309.htm
Catholic Answers is a really interesting site. As a rule I respect private fora who ask me to leave, so I won’t go back there. If you wander in, try and blend in and get to know the special breed of fuckers who give bad advice there. There are some hardcore feminists that are good at rhetoric, and can dress their bad advice up in seemingly harmless doubletalk. They’re so skilled at it that I’m forced to admire them, and I’ve learned a lot about being a better troll from their examples.
Boxer
JRob,
It is highly unlikely my ex was fooling around with anyone. She was too focused on herself, just like her mom. Somehow she could accept divorce and still think she was a fine Christian. Though having a past pastor’s wife encourage her to stay away from me because I would “go back to the way I was” didn’t help. This was from a church that claimed “divorce was not an option” and had male leadership.
This pastor’s wife had never seen such an unhappy wife. She didn’t admit it, but I am sure she blamed me for causing that state, even though it was the sole doing of my ex. I wasn’t perfect, but I did many good things that were completely ignored, or even blamed for being wrong. (You can do exactly what some women want and still be wrong, imagine that!)
“He’s not listening to me.” = “He doesn’t agree with me.”
“I need …” = “I want …”
earl —
“She like being treated like a god until she got tired of being treated like a god. Perhaps you shouldn’t treat your wife/gf/crush like a god because they are not a god. They are human beings. This is what I consider the essence of red pill truth and blue pill is keeping women as the god.”
Agree.
The original luciferian intention was that, of course. Suggest the female’s being cheated of her rightful station (Equality with man and God), promise better, watch the fun begin.
The careful reconstructions herein of the romanticist cult that long ago overtook the West prove instructive to these Baptist Boys posts. Those cults derive from B.C. goddess-religions, but are transited by various gnostic cults and schools into A.D., cleverly (con)fusing them with Christ’s agape, concocting a witch’s brew. The “love” and NRG is now directed at woman/Mary, not Jeshua. We soon see varieties of pre-Romanticism with the gnostics and their sophia-ideals, and emerging Catholicism with its marian doctrines. Not unrelated is the AI Sophia. Self-proclaimed feminist.
The Albigensians (Cathars) — likewise neo-Gnostics, early codified and expanded submissions to, and deification of, females and the feminine. Troubadours, courtly traditions, Arthur etc.
All this revived in 1940s America (later, Britain) in powerful and pervasive romanticist cultures — film, music, advertising, the U.S. was saturated in it.
Once this all was welded into modern feminism and political power, the result was inevitable, and the damage tremendous . . . and even to this moment, unacknowledged. By feminist cultures. Who could guess :O)
Simultaneously, the Annunciation of the Parousia was taking place, particularly in America, and so much of the ‘festival’ to glorify and welcome the King was tainted and rerouted into malevolent purpose, particularly obsession with, and reliance upon, the feminine. But the resonance of the King’s nearness was unmistakable and ineradicable, and the ‘event’ occurred despite resistance.
This isn’t festival time anymore, though. Already He is dressed for battle and He is coming to make war.
BillyS,
I wasn’t attempting any disrespect. More using hyperbole to show empathy. Happened to me, and nearly every church-going man I know under 60. FI hamster doublespeak would be a fun joke if it weren’t pandered to in our Evangelical churches.
The latest trend I see with these women is the accusation of “He’s not a spiritual leader” to justify a frivorce. This of course is enough for the church “leaders” to throw a man under the bus. The tire tracks fade, but the internal trauma will always be there. The men you trusted, worshipped and fellowshipped with, respected….go full Blue Falcon retard when a split tail isn’t happy. I submit it makes a man see and think more clearly. It helps a man laugh at the absurdity while everything collapses around his ears. The RP allows you to accept the way things are, instead of BP believing things are as they should be. Then make a small difference where you can.
What gets me about Father’s day is that there is ALWAYS some moron in church who prays thus:
”And dear Lord, we remember that fathers have been abusive, so we pray for the victims since we know that fathers don’t always serve you blah blah blah….”
I am going to go to father’s day church this year. IF I hear that prayer, or something in a similar vein, I will say the following:
”Every year I happen to be in church for Father’s Day, a day set aside to honor fathers, without which, anthropologists tell us there would be NO civilization, I get to her about abusive fathers. Can we give it a rest?
If not, I will come to the Mother’s Day service, and I will pray about how a lot of women dishonor God and abort their own children…..”
I don’t understand. Is such a person a part of the clergy, or is that just some bozo who prays outloud?
Or abuse them Spike.
JRob,
No disrespect taken. I was just noting that some women are not sexually unfaithful, just mentally unfaithful. This is especially true in a society that worships women.
…clergy, or is that just some bozo who prays outloud?
Yes.
@ Spike says:
June 12, 2018 at 12:42 am
Ironically, the person most likely to abuse a child is that child’s unmarried mother, yet I’ve never heard anyone pray such a prayer about single moms, inside, or outside church.
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JRob:
By attending this feminist church, you are accepting this fool as a spiritual and moral authority over you and your family. So, who’s the real asshole, in this situation?
I certainly hope you don’t have any children. They’re being taught some pretty revolting lessons via your submission to this faggot.
Boxer
Or one of her new boyfriends who has no biological ties…since her husband obviously can’t parent the kids anymore due to the state.
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Boxer,
You are 100% correct. VJay-jay worship is everywhere. I RPed, woke up, and bounced. Teaching my sons appropriately.
Still connected with other men who walk into the slaughterhouse every Sunday, so I get lotsa material to work with.
Sermons like this that keep me away from “church”.
I’d agree with the implication of leaving that church. They are an enemy to fathers and men.
I’ve been fortunate enough to have never to this point heard a priest rip men or fathers in a homily. And believe me since I found this site and others…I’ve been listening more closely. Often they focus on the Gospel, or the Old Testiment, or a saint, or virtues, or avoiding sin. I’d rather learn about that than listen to some worldly complaint about social justice ills or why fathers are evil buffons.
Boxer /Oscar /BillyS/JRob
Re:
‘”And dear Lord, we remember that fathers have been abusive, so we pray for the victims since we know that fathers don’t always serve you blah blah blah….”
I have heard this drivel at least twice or thrice, a reason why I am absent from father’s day services.It isn’t clergy that prays it, but it occurs during open prayer time and it is always said by a woman. Perhaps it is common in Australia, which was once a masculine land but has since become a left-radical / cultural Left hell, replete with Third World migrants, LGBTIQWERTY parades and demands, affirmative action quotas for women CEOs, women ministers in the leftist Uniting Church and other sordid policies..
I imagine that the mental processes of the woman praying this is that daddy has wanted to stop her from making a poor choice, the first of a the long list of poor choices that Australian women all seem to have made, and that makes him abusive.
The arm-long list of past ”abusive boyfriends”, who are mentioned in stories when you ask a girl about her past, are ”abusive and controlling” but never brought to the legal system, and never mentioned in prayer.
Yes I often think a wimminz definition of abuse is a man not allowing her to get her way. He produced badfeelz in her.
Earl,
The person most likely to sexually abuse a child is that child’s single mom’s shackup boyfriend. But everyone knows married fathers are the real problem.
Sexually abuse or murder the kid…point being it’s not usually the father who is the bad guy…it’s the destructive mother and whatever new man who has no ties to the kid she brings into the fold.
Just watch fellas (if you haven’t already) about some story where a kid was murdered…see how many times ‘live in boyfriend’ is brought up. I’d bet you a handsome sum it happens more than ‘father’.
In establishment media, it often gets reported (in sensational and lurid detail) that the “father” harms the baby. In many cases, a little digging reveals that the “father” is not the biological father. Moreover, it often also comes out that the biological mother goaded or coaxed her simp into beating the kid.
A great recent example is Michele Martens, of Albuquerque NM. At first, the media reported that her daughter, Victoria, was murdered by her father. After the story stopped being reported, I got curious. It turned out that little Victoria wasn’t murdered by her biological father at all. Her mother had been pimping her out to pedophiles on the swingers site, Plenty of Fish. The scumbag who killed her was her mother’s latest boyfriend. Her mother watched the slaughter and confessed that she got “sexually satisfied” by doing so.
Naturally, there are no candlelight vigils or national protests by feminists after this shocking turn of events. Moreover, I can’t find any interviews with the little girl’s dad. Interesting what passes for “journalism” these days.
@ Earl,
It’s not even close. The safest place for women and children is in a home where the biological mother and father are married to each other.
I am inviting all church-going fathers to listen closely to Sunday’s sermon or Father’s Day announcement and post anything that was complementary about us, and anything that was derogatory about us to the AMBEC facebook page!
“AMBEC” stands for “Anti-Male Bias in the Evangelical Church!” We have 59 AMBEC group members and we want thousands more! Search fb for AMBEC and please join us! Remember to take notes at church on Father’s Day!
The Daily Caller in DC has a full length story on Paige. Here’s the link: http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/13/paige-patterson-southern-baptist-convention-scandal-2/
Oscar’s right. I’m having a hard time finding research newer than this 13-year-old study–maybe no one wants to look?–but kids in households with unrelated adults are 50 times likelier to be murdered than are kids living with both biological parents.
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/116/5/e687.short
I shall be interested to see how the increased prevalence of gay households affects these statistics.
JRob,
I have gotten tired of trying to reach out to other men with what is clearly written. They would rather follow their traditions than have their female worship shaken. I wish I had your connections to make it worthwhile.
Case in point:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/12/orlando-man-killed-four-children-domestic-violence/696117002/
Given all the crap, particularly from churches, that we take on Fathers day, please spread this story far and wide.
THIS is a child who honours and truly loves his father just for the good man he is.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-oh-to-have-one-more-pint-with-dad/
Saw this CNN headline and the only thing I could do was post it here on Darlock.
“He gave birth. He breastfed. Now, he wants his son to see him as a man.”
https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/06/15/health/transgender-fathers-day-trnd/index.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-06-15T14%3A29%3A03&utm_term=image
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I might have more tolerance for some of the jokes if I knew the pastors would add, “and it is to God’s glory for you to submit yourselves quietly with respect to these oafs and boobs and it is your role to submit, not hector these husbands whom I just skewered. “
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