Cane Caldo shared a video from a local newscast:
Notice how this story demonstrates the two primal feminist desires that work cross purpose:
- Be (like) one of the guys (experience manly pride)
- Mark all spaces as feminine (extinguish manly pride)
Ms. Martin is careful to present herself as one of the guys. They’re her bro’s after all. And she hasn’t yet demanded an expensive remodel to all of the high schools her team might play; she shows up for away games already dressed. Her father is also delighted that his daughter is officially one of the guys. Did you see her tackle that other boy?
But both the newscaster and her father are ecstatic that she is marking football as feminine. The newscaster expresses his hope that football will never be the same, and her father is eager to point out that her very presence has forced the coach to change the way he talks to the team.
The end goal is obvious, to make sure football is no longer seen as a way for young men to prove themselves as men. This won’t happen overnight, but just like with the military, it will happen over time.
Our first mistake was putting away the menstruation tent.
Yes, one of the guys. But note the still shots of her in her uniform, but with professionally applied hair and makeup, presumably for the SI cover mentioned in the comments at Cane’s. She’s “one of the guys”, but still a girl – a HOT girl. All girl, but all man too.
The message to the men is unmistakeable – hit, but not too hard. She’s a girl after all.
All the benefits, none of the responsibilities. All the perks; none of the burdens.
Do like in chess:
males compete in “open” events, if some female is strong enough, she can join.
Females only compete in “special” events, in which no male is allowed, it would be unfair.
No physical barrier, no barrier at all for females. The first female is n 88 of the world.
https://ratings.fide.com/top.phtml?list=women look it yourself, if you like.
In sport, should we adopt such a discipline? In the open (former “male” cathegory) everyone is accepted, but no barrier must be put. Same toilets for all the team, same space, same tackles, same rules. If a “bro” is injured, it is just a “bro” experiencing hardness of the open cathegory.
Mind you, this is happening at a time when parents are pulling their sons out of football in sizable numbers due to concerns over head injuries.
Like Deti wrote above, “The message to the men is unmistakeable – hit, but not too hard. She’s a girl after all.”
This is why Jack Donovan correctly noted that there is no honor in competing with women in physical activities. If you lose, you’re humiliated. If you win, you look petty or it’s shrugged aside as the way it was supposed to be, anyway.
Why aren’t these dads ashamed? Why didn’t he encourage his daughter into different sports. Why isn’t anyone ashamed? Given the area of the country he is probably the proudest trad con in the world. When is anyone in this world going to stand up and say…this is a boys sport and you cannot come here.
Strategically this is also dumb. She has a good leg? Might make it into college on scholarship for the novelty but if she is a good athlete all the Ivies are looking for female athletes for their Title IX requirements for female sports. She might be throwing away a full ride to show boat for her dumb parents.
Please don’t overlook her father and all the other men buying in to the lie to allow this to occur. When men get tired of this nonsense, they’ll put a stop to it.
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Did this man really wanted a boy, so he is thrilled when his daughter cross-dresses? I have nothing but daughters, but I in no way wish they were boys; but I have been told I am way out of step with “normal” thought. Do men want sons so badly that, unthinkingly, this is how far they might stoop?
I’m new here, where’s the vomit icon?
Seriously though, if a moderately strong male hits her at full force she might be seriously injured. Perhaps permanently.
Sheer idiocy.
She has rather an obvious manjaw at 17 / 18 years of age, plus something of a wide face…this could make her 20’s into a real pony ride.
She won’t be going to the prom with just any “bro”, that’s for sure, because of her hypergamy in combination with the all-male environment of f’ball. The 80 / 20 attraction rule applies in any set.
Maybe I missed it, but I did not see or hear what position she plays. Kicker? End?
@theShield220
I don’t think that is it. Her being a daughter makes it all the better. He’s such a badass that even his daughter tackles other boys. Try to top that, men.
I misread the title of the video. I thought it read: “High School Teen Sluts Up As Teams First Female Football Player”. Maybe that will come to pass.
@Dalrock
That explanation seems to fit better with “the times”. Thanks!
‘Why aren’t these dads ashamed?’
Along with feminist mothers…white knight fathers are the main reason feminism just keeps humming along.
He could have said ‘no’…but rather he said…’that’s my girl’.
@Opus
“An update on our story from Monday: Maddie Martin resigns her position as kicker for the new title of ‘team bicycle’. More at 11.”
The first “boob bro”!
This is going to be a classic #metoo when the coach slips up and slaps her ass by mistake.
” And she hasn’t yet demanded an expensive remodel to all of the high schools her team might play; she shows up for away games already dressed….”
Feminism is similar to Islam in how it infiltrates. It seem benign until you need chemo to survive.
It’s up there with the female Isreali commandos wearing camo bikinis while holding guns.
Model ‘the uniform’…but don’t really do anything with the uniform.
@squid_hunt
Agreed.
Dalrock described the father as “delighted”, and perhaps he is. He certainly expressed delight. But I read the father’s face as pained by embarrassment; as if he was trying to convince himself that he was actually proud. I am ready to believe that he lied to his daughter, the camera and–most importantly–to himself.
Similarly, check out in this interview with the Rams’ new male cheerleaders and their team captain Emily. Whenever one of the men talks about wanting to be a dancer, or being just as good, she looks down.
On all the black stallions if I read my Magic 8-ball aright.
OT:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/28/california-lawmaker-slams-slut-shaming-attackers-threatening-to-release-her-photos-from-burning-man.html
I don’t get it. Does that mean she self-identifies as one? Does she think that will encourage people to vote for her?
Related (parody?) from the Babylon Bee:
https://babylonbee.com/news/adulterophobic-pastor-hatefully-preaches-against-adultery/
so what are the chances that she will be tackled the same as the other guys? Either she gets treated nicer or gets injured. Either way it is unfair to the guys.
@Shield220
I haver brothers with only daughters and they all want their daughters in sports to learn to be aggressive. They want all their daughters to be CEOs and lawyers as well.
@Cane Caldo
I don’t get the draw of hot girls dancing with gay guys. Who wants to watch the gay guys? My whole culture is going insane.
She’s a kicker which is the only position a woman could play without getting physically destroyed. A Division I linebacker tackling a woman at full speed would snap her in two.
@Cane
That’s the price of buying into the lie. If he’d have put down some boundaries when his daughter started out, they wouldn’t be here. Instead, he’s the most likely culprit to have encouraged her in this, probably to keep his wife from pursing her lips at him or something as equally devastating.
If you look in the church at the women that are acting up, all you have to do is check how they and their fathers acted when she was a teen. Guarentee she was causing problems then, too, and no one was allowed to say anything to Daddy’s girl. It’s disgusting.
@Kevin
Thanks; that also seems to fit the pieces together well – man, I am way out of sync with normal!
I guess if one’s highest aspiration for one’s daughters is the glory that comes from men (men, as in humanity), this tomfoolery makes perfect sense. But last I checked my Bible, my girls will not be able to serve both God and Mammon; and it is God before whom they will stand on Judgment Day. Teaching them to have an aggressive, self-serving spirit is just teaching them that they should be comfortable in their sin. What is precious in God’s sight is “the beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit”. They will either stand before God clothed in the righteousness of Christ, or they will be stripped even of those robes they had in life and cast into hell. I am truly incredulous that men’s consciences do not accuse them more loudly of setting their daughters up for damnation.
Football is majority an african game. Girls want to feminise it? Go forth!
This girl football player will probably get seriously injured. This makes me remember that marine who got hurt or killed in a fistfight with a man that Dalrock posted about a while ago.
It also reminds me of Kara Hultgreen, who was the first certified Navy fighter pilot and who, months after her certification, was killed when she crashed her fighter jet into the ocean while attempting to land that plane on an aircraft carrier. Investigation revealed that during her fatal approach and landing attempt, she had made the same mistakes she made during her training, yet was certified for combat anyway.
Those mistakes cost Hultgreen her life and the Navy a multimillion dollar fighter jet.
In Cali…who knows.
But don’t you see…she wasn’t responsible for her actions to go and do drugs and dress immodestly (among other things she could have done)..it’s always the man’s fault for bringing her character to light. No wonder feminism isn’t going away.
Dudes. That’s a tranny.
As usual, her social justice sensibilities will be used as the vector to get into her (football) pants.
As a vector to inject her.
She’s a kicker
Figures. There’s some Title IX Novelty Scholarship potential. Easier than competing with the other girls for a softball / vollyball / soccer position.
Look at the size of that jaw. Testosterone overload.
feministhater
That’s a tranny.
Nope. She has some masculine facial features such as that jaw, and that’s part of a larger trend / topic[1], but she’s got XX chromosomes.
[1] I see college aged / 20-something women with pronounced bicep / tricep / traps development from time to time. A lot more than used to be the case. It is odd to see a young woman from behind and notice that her shoulders are visibly wider than her hips. More girls involved in mid high / high school athletics for a start, but possibly other things as well.
I see college aged / 20-something women with pronounced bicep / tricep / traps development from time to time. A lot more than used to be the case. It is odd to see a young woman from behind and notice that her shoulders are visibly wider than her hips.
I’m seeing this too. I’m seeing it in older women most of whom remain relatively fit for their age. It’s when they’re fit and trim or athletic that you can see it.
To me it’s just masculinization of women. Women getting more masculine and evolving ever so slightly. It could also be just high T women – and there are some biological women who produce more T than most other women, yet aren’t lesbians. They’re usually characterized by sexual promiscuity and a high sex drive.
As in all previous cases I remember of girls playing high-school football, they are place-kickers. Place-kickers and punters are such specialized positions, and almost all of them at the higher levels seldom need to attempt any other football move.
Personally, I’d like to see these positions require that they play at least one non-kicking down for each kicking down. Or better yet, not that it will happen, US football be replaced by rugby where there is some specialization but they’re all on the field all of the time.
Along with that she has the female hip sway when she walks. Not a tranny…just a gal with higher T.
If there’s a couple things a tranny can’t reproduce…it’s the brain and the pelvic bone region to house a uterus.
I’ve seen a trend towards exaggerating female powerlifting accomplishments.
I have a book where the male author marvels at how “270-lb Becca Swanson” squatted a mere 100-lb less (850-ish) than “400-lb Mark Henry”.
What the author doesn’t mention is that (as far as I can tell) Swanson’s lift was equipped (multi-ply squat suit). So her accomplishment should have been compared to the nearly 1300-lb equipped squat several men have done or the 800+ pound raw squat a couple of Russian men have done in the 148-lb weight class! Also, Swanson lifts in a steroid powerlifting federation (no mandatory drug testing means basically they all use steroids, estrogen blockers, etc.). Mark Henry was drug-tested, Ray Williams squats in mandatory drug-testing IPF, etc.
I saw a video where a teenage girl with her father’s coaching “bench pressed” 240-lbs. The bench had this ridiculous, huge hump that brought her chest up nearly to the racked bar and dramatically shortened the range of motion into a little quarter rep.
The point being that both women and men have this weird desire to exaggerate female feats of athleticism to show that women are equal to men (leaving out details in their comparisons, allowing the girls to cheat/different standards, etc.).
All things being actually equal where the woman has no cheats….the strongest female I’ve seen in the gym has never outlifted me in bench or squat.
“This is why Jack Donovan correctly noted that there is no honor in competing with women in physical activities. If you lose, you’re humiliated. If you win, you look petty or it’s shrugged aside as the way it was supposed to be, anyway.”
We had a girl join our high school wrestling team way back in 1991-ish. I don’t remember how long she lasted but it was a big deal, locally. The reaction by the male wrestlers was pretty much Jack Donovan’s. If you beat her, you heard something like “big-deal, you beat a girl, big-man!!” and god help you if you lost to her.
This proves that it is the western men, not the women, that have lost their mojo.
I am still waiting for the time when the men in this hemisphere will say “Enough” to their harpy and out of control women who are bent on disrespecting them at every turn.
And, no, grumbling at a corner on the internet doesn’t count.
I think the general rule of thumb is for an equal level of training, women have about half the upper body strength and 2/3 to ¾ the lower body strength of men. Their grip strength is much less than a man’s.
You can already tell the moron patents aren’t going to have any white grandchildren if they have any at all. I could bet money that daddy is proud of his strong daughter that no man is good enough for.
kalonauta @ 10:31 am:
“Do like in chess: males compete in “open” events, if some female is strong enough, she can join.
Females only compete in “special” events, in which no male is allowed, it would be unfair. … In sport, should we adopt such a discipline?”
Absolutely not. One, humans are a sexually dimorphic species. Expecting men and women to coexist under tight discipline, physical contact and/or lack of privacy is a denial of reality.
Two, the few women who actually can compete with men are the worst offenders. White knights live to champion such women. Did you know that all women everywhere are as strong as the average male bodybuilder? It’s true! The bearded lady at the circus proved it!
Not joking. That is how white knights think. One single women does as well as an ordinary man at something, the world celebrates female superiority over all men. There is no reasoning with them because they do not want to be reasonable.
Three, we live in a society that routinely destroys men because they’re falsely accused, even by third parties, of improper behavior towards the women around him. The entire football team should have quit en masse when Barbie first signed up. Not to make a statement; to protect themselves from the feminists.
Chess is simply not a sport. Any game you can play over an Internet connection is not a sport. It’s a game.
Lots of girls are faster than me and lift more than me. I am an aging wimp. Its not the exceptions that make culture. Its the averages.
@ Bruce
The other issue is that Swanson looks like a disgusting freak, and Henry looks like a giant terrifying man. This works both ways. The female cheerleaders look like feminine examples, the male cheerleaders in the video above look like disgusting weak men. Swanson’s appearance are why fitness competitions and fitness modeling replaced female weightlifting. Most women don’t want to look like really ugly women/men hybrids.
@Kevin
“Lots of girls are faster than me and lift more than me. I am an aging wimp. Its not the exceptions that make culture. Its the averages.”
Exactly. Heck, I have a sister-in-law who can probably beat me at arm-wrestling. I know she can squat more than I can. But if I wanted her to melt into a blubbering puddle of goo, all I would have to do is flick her face and yell “DO BETTER!”
GunnerQ-
to your point further, look at how today it is so hyped up that Billie Jean King beat Bobby Riggs.* That proved the equality of men and women in tennis or something. Of course, Riggs was 25 years older than King. Further, he had just beaten the number-one ranked player in the world, Margarget Smith Court. King was ranked second. Finally, in his prime, Riggs was not as good of a tennis player, relative to his male peers, as King was relative to her female peers. Yet it gets hyped like this. Tl;dr: White knights is dumb.
* There is some evidence, and an interesting documentary I saw once, suggesting that Riggs threw the match to Billie Jean King. Wouldn’t surprise me.
Am not too good at body language, but the demeanor of the men in the interview made my gut judgement yell, “GAY”. Looks like a very forced smile from her, too.
The clips of their dancing do show them doing well at expressing the movements. But dancing the same dance as the girls is not masculine …
Girls on f’ball teams apparently has been a “thing” for a while now. A search turns up other examples. Interesting how each time is a “game changer”, as if the other ones didn’t really happen, or count.
Here’s one from 2015
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/female-high-school-football-player-in-texas-a-game-changer/
Here is another video about “Mad Martin:
https://www.star-telegram.com/latest-news/article212289209.html
So she’s been playing soccer for years and this is just a senior-year bonus. Definitely Title IX scholarship somewhere.
She’s a kicker and a soccer player, right? Probably the only position where a female could get PT on a HS varsity team.
My son’s HS team had a girl on it for one year. She wanted to be a RB. She didn’t get any snaps (everyone knew why), and she decided to not be on the team the following year.
In any case, there’s a general war going on against football, or at least against football as it now is, so I expect that the game itself is going to be so mangled in the next decade or so that what ends up surviving as football may be much more amenable to some degree of female participation.
I like that it’s from a bible-belt state. That’s the press trying with all their might to indoctrinate and be world-changers. “You boobs should believe in secularism, not Christ, see how fun it is and how good it is? You don’t want us to call you a sexist do you? So celebrate this and squash that dying inner voice that doesn’t like this.”
She’d be perfect for the South Baptist Uni if it had a team.
It’s hard to make a teenage girl look unattractive, but that still shot does the job.
This may not be related, but maybe it is in a strange way. What will happen to football if there is a definite, lengthy, feminine influence? Perhaps it will follow the path of the church as seen today after sufficient effeminate men have become Catholic priests or Protestant clergy.
Father James Mason wrote this in The Forgotten Vice in Seminary Formation in 2006:
The Question: this is happening at a time when parents are pulling their sons out of football in sizable numbers due to concerns over head injuries.
I guess the girls are being forced to play football, because none of the guys will man up to play.
“I don’t think that is it. Her being a daughter makes it all the better. He’s such a badass that even his daughter tackles other boys. Try to top that, men.”
Yep. This is what he is signaling to the world. Even my little GIRL is more macho than the puny sons of the nation. Guess what that makes ME?
Multiply that a zillionfold and you get the United Sisterhood over the last half-century. And they certainly will not stop until the very moment that the hammer falls. And after it does, whatever’s left will be looking to blame . . . you.
Yes when you have an overall degrading of masculinity and many families either without a father or lacking a strong father (feminist mom rules the roost)…you are going to have more effeminate clergy.
The state of Texas is just about as gah-gah for high school football as other states are for NFL or college football in other parts of the nation. Just check out their HS football stadium investments in Texas for decads, which are off the charts with FieldTurf and 30,000+ fans on Friday nights. South Lake Carroll has had a successful football program for decades. There HC Riley Dodge is the son of Todd Dodge, former Longhorn QB from the 1980s, and current Westlake HC.
This claim about her tackling one of her high school team mates with any authority or efficacy is ridiculous and no, I do not believe it ever happened, uness it was a scrawny freshman JV player.
Show me this senior kicker in the Oklahoma Drill. If you don’t know what that is, then you probably didn’t play high school football. Even as a 4th year high school senior, such a drill would have left her annihilated physically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJI11zkJM_c
I don’t really care about a female FG kicker. She has some huge shoes to fill, literally in last year’s FG kicker for South Lake Carroll, Neil Koskay:
http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/neal-koskay/a1r1jTmjEeeT-Oz0u-e-FA/gendersport/football-stats.htm
And no I don’t believe she can match his performance. Koskay hit a 50 year FG last year. That’s the ball snapped from the 33 yard line, teed at the 40 yard line, and through the uprights.
“It’s hard to make a teenage girl look unattractive, but that still shot does the job.”
She isn’t pretty, particularly for a teenage girl.
This is how things go now. If you’re a girl and not pretty, you, in a fit of rebellious rage, say “f-it” and cultivate a masculine identity.
If you’re a boy and you’re not masculine, you say “f-it” and cultivate a feminine identity.
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I find it necessary to point out that as recently as 2000, ‘fake’ pro-wrestling still was quite willing to display the top, established, female wrestler as being no match for the male wrestlers. Depicting anything else would not have flown back then.
Here is a series of clips of the top female wrestler being forced by management (against her will) to fight male wrestlers. Note that if the script had the female doing well at all, the audience would have left, since pro-Wrestling depends on a certain suspension of disbelief to let the theatrical performance take place.
Hence, the irony of the ‘fake’ Wrestling having to depict a realistic strength differential, even as the ‘real’ sports pf today try to pretend there isn’t one.
Have not yet found an image of the mother. A family pic would be better, in order to view the body language.
Consider it a mark of my now-incurable cynicism, but I look forward to the soon-to-be-published news story of daddy suing the school district and the parents of “one of guys” when his baby dike daughter is lying comatose in a hospital bed with two-score broken bones, a cracked skull, and a concussion.
@Anonymous Reader
“Girls on f’ball teams apparently has been a “thing” for a while now.”
When i was in high school in the late 90s, there was a girl in my class that made such a big stink about playing football that the administration relented and let her join the team. She lasted all of a few practices before she realized what she had gotten herself into and she promptly quit. She was so terrible and clueless, that even had she stuck it out, she wouldnt have ever gotten on the field.
Thankfully, no other girl at our school looked to her as an example and tried to follow suit.
I had an interesting a couple of months ago whilst taking an Uber ride home where the driver was waxing eloquent about his daughter made a first, by being the first girl on the high school wrestling team and being the first woman on a wrestling team at Texas A&M, College Station. He was praising his daughter for kicking the butt of a home invader at her apartment while in college where this invader was much bigger than her. Apparently, she called the father rather shaken after the experience, but, the father was still very proud of his little girl who was able to defend herself from a man bigger than her. He sounded conservative, however during the conversation I came to conclusion that he was a thoroughly cucked conservative man. I was rather shocked and surprised to hear this on my ride home!!!
Football : The boys should just keep groping her butt during actual plays until she gives up and leaves.
Football girl (without makeup) does bear a striking facial resemblance to the ‘Boz’, Brian Bosworth.
Ugh. $22 Trillion of debt from deficit spending, in the quest to create an androgynous society.
Simpsons did it. Nov 1997
[Lisa] -What position have you got for me? [All Gasping] That’s right. A girl wants to play football. How about that?
-Well, that’s super-duper, Lisa. In fact, we already have four girls on the team.
[Lisa] – You do?
– Uh-huh. But we’d love to have you on board.
[Lisa] -Well, football’s not really my thing. After all, what civilized person would play a game with the skin of an innocent pig?!
-Well, actually, Lisa, these balls are synthetic. And for every ball we buy, a dollar goes to Amnesty International.
[Lisa] -I’ve got to go…..
There’s no bigger white knights than conservative men.
Look who was the brainchild of VAWA.
Did someone say (free) kicker. Let me show you how it should be done:
Brilliant. Sadly brilliant.
I’m so #$%@*$# sick of “diversity”.
By the way, there is a big trend now in seminary school where women are now getting into specializing in the Apologetics. I wonder why this is? I have heard how appalling the quality has deteriorated in Philosophy depts at universities around the country after women started getting into the subject.
…and how it should not be done:
Earl
There’s no bigger white knights than conservative men.
Well, it’s all relative.
Look who was the brainchild of VAWA.
You calling Joe Biden a conservative? He’d be offended.
https://www.legalmomentum.org/history-vawa
Opus
Did someone say (free) kicker. Let me show you how it should be done:
Worth the reminder at this point: college and even Olympic level women’s soccer (footie) teams routinely get beaten by teenaged boy (high school) teams. The girls like to play those boys because they have a bit of a chance and the experience tunes them up to be able to win against other girls.
But repeat: Olympic-level 20-something women soccer teams often lose to high school boys.
Olympic-level 20-something women soccer teams often lose to high school boys.
To continue the hatespeak and thoughtcrime:
And your average 5 foot 9 inch tall, flabby, 20 pounds overweight, nonweightlifter man can easily overpower, physically restrain, and seriously injure and even kill, a fit, athletic woman in excellent physical condition. To put it in perspective, two average men could easily overpower an unarmed “Black Widow” as portrayed in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Black Widow defeating a couple dozen men singlehandedly is pure fantasy, and everyone knows it.
It was amusing to see some of the fails by women footballers, but, to be fair, I’ve seen some horrible fails by professional men footballers, too. However, I can’t imagine even a low-level professional men’s squad losing to a team of 15-year-olds.
@anon Reader
Ha! that reminds me of something that happened my sophomore year of college. My older brother put together a group of former high school soccer players to scrimmage against the women’s soccer team at the SEC school i attended. I guess their coach thought it would be good for his team to play tougher competition and so once a week during the off-season we played a full length match. Every single game we played, our team, full of out of shape, (some even fat) former soccer players scored so quickly and easily that after 5 goals, usually in the first 20 minutes, we would limit ourselves to two touches and shooting with our off foot. Had we not called off the dogs each time, we would have easily beaten them 20+ to nothing every single game.
There is just no comparison between top girls and even mid level/skill boys. it was like playing against little kids. They are slower, less physical and have negligible strength. I laugh whenever i hear about girls wanting to play with guys because i had experience playing against high level girls and the still were far far inferior in abilities.
😆😆😆 if only it were funny! Why are men in authority so spineless nowadays! Male spaces and female spaces should be separate!
Funny how most men never want to feel like one of the girls.
In that case I’d do it…after calling him a creeper.
“Funny how most men never want to feel like one of the girls.”
But most men like to feel the girls.
Her Dad: “I …remember Bradley watching her tackle another player she went in and put her head right in his chest and took him to the ground and I thought to myself that’s my girl.”
This matches my experience: dads are never more proud of their children than when their daughters act lke boys. The effects of this are massive, and ignored.
Fifteen years from now, he’ll wonder why no guys are “man enough” to marry his little girl — while at Thanksgiving dinner she talks about her cats. Consequences.
Also ignored is the effect of these intense sports on young girls. Many of these produce heavy stocky adolescents. My guess is that most will never shed that weight, nor regain a girlish figure. Cats are the future for many of them.
About all the boasting upthread about men’s superior strength —
“Today’s men are not nearly as strong as their dads were, researchers say”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/08/15/todays-men-are-nowhere-near-as-strong-as-their-dads-were-researchers-say/
“A new study in press at the Journal of Hand Therapy (yes, a real thing) finds that millennial men may have significantly weaker hands and arms than men the same age did 30 years ago. …
“Millennial women fared much less worse in the study. Their average right-hand grip force is roughly the same today as it was 30 years ago, at about 75 pounds. Millennial women between 30 to 34 actually squeezed much harder than their forebears did, coming in at 98 pounds of force compared to 79 pounds in 1985. But this was offset by decreases in strength among younger millennial women.
“To look at it another way: In 1985, the typical 30-to-34-year-old man could squeeze your hand with 31 pounds more force than the typical woman of that age could. But today, older millennial men and women are roughly equal when it comes to grip strength.”
The conservatives, including ‘Christian’ conservatives, are worse than the Leftie men. Hypocrites, whereas most Lefties are troo believers in The Cause. And the conservative men are absolutely intransigent concerning Nothing’s Too Good for Princess! Apoplectic frequently, guess they know it’s wrong. :O) They have destroyed the nation over the past four decades, right along with the FeMarxists.
I been thumping on the ‘conservatives’ for a twenty years or so, and hardly made a dent. Strong delusion indeed. They embraced the delusion (out of selfishness, cowardice etc.) and all the LORD did was forward it. Same as He did with Eve; He coulda just wiped out the rebellious aspect in her, but didn’t, because He’s not into slavery. Unlike Eve and her descendants.
I’m gonna leave the cuckservatives to their own vomit now as they have worn my ass out. And there wasn’t much there to begin. They are in big trouble due to rebellion but they won’t hear it so tra la off we go. I don’t need them, was doing it for a friend.
Ben Mavet Who says:
August 28, 2018 at 10:43 am
I’m new here, where’s the vomit icon?
Seriously though, if a moderately strong male hits her at full force she might be seriously injured. Perhaps permanently.
Sheer idiocy.
I hope she gets paralyzed from the neck down, and quickly. (There have been other girls that used courts to be allowed into high school boys’ sports who got injured in the normal course of competition and dropped out within weeks.) Face it, she’d be a sh*t wife and mother, if she even married and had children. (If a woman conceives and bears children outside of marriage without giving them up for permanent adoption ASAP if there are takers, she is guaranteed to be a crummy mother, no matter her wealth.) So, at least let her serve as a useful bad example.
Bruce says: This is why Jack Donovan correctly noted that there is no honor in competing with women in physical activities.
Exactly, no good can come from it.
When I was in High School, I was quite athletic, but basketball was probably my worst sport, and I did not attempt to play for the school, although I played pick-up games regularly. One day the best girl on the High School’s basketball team challenged me to play her one on one. She was actually a hair taller than me at that time, I wasn’t done growing until 23, and she later played in a college division 1 volleyball championships. She was even being scouted at the time as being an Olympic hopeful. She was quite a nice girl, so I agreed to play her. Well, not wanting to be disgraced, I played well, and shut her down. She complimented me on my play when it was over, but there was no honor in it, I had barely retained my honor even by being able to win.
I went to an engineering college that did not have a football team, but I tried the intramural flag football. When our floor played against the “athletic society”(self proclaimed jocks) they actually formally complained to the school administration that I was too rough. in one game I knocked two players completely unconscious. Anyhow, later on after leaving college the singles group at the church I was going to was having coed flag football, and I routinely got invited to play. I had to repeatedly try to explain about how I was not going to play football with girls, for their safety. It was like folks couldn’t understand that. How is a man over 200 pounds of solid muscle supposed to run and dive into a girl at full speed with his unpadded shoulder, and she just bounce back up off the turf like nothing happened? It doesn’t work that way. I played coed volleyball, but never coed football. Sorry, women just aren’t built for playing football against men.
One day my wife beat on me with her fists until she got wore out. I don’t know what she was trying to accomplish. I think I ended up laughing at her after she wore out.
Related:
From the book “Women in the Military” by Brian Mitchell (1998):
“p. 57-8: “The most common complaint heard from male cadets and midshipmen was that integration had lowered the academies’ physical standards. Physically, the women simply could not keep up. The dropout rate on morning runs during West Point’s “Beast Barracks” was 23 percent for women and less than 3 percent for men. In the seventh week of training, 26.3 percent of female cadets reported for physical “reconditioning” instead of the morning run, compared to 5.6 percent of men. Women reported for sick call an average of 6.8 times per female cadet, compared to the male average of 1.7 times. They suffered more than ten times as many stress fractures as men. Attrition during the first summer was 16 percent for women, 9.7 percent for men. Even after a year of regular physical training, West Point women in the first integrated class suffered five times as many injuries as men during field training. The following year, the injury rate for women in field training was fourteen times the rate for men.
p. 141-2: “Women’s physical advantages are that they are less susceptible to altitude sickness and, normally, have a greater tolerance of cold temperatures due to their extra body fat. But by all other measures, men have enormous advantages physically. The average female Army recruit is 4.8 inches shorter, 31.7 pounds lighter, has 37.4 fewer pounds of muscle, and 5.7 more pounds of fat than the average male recruit. She has only 55 percent of the upper-body strength and 72 percent of the lower-body strength of the average male. She is also at a significant disadvantage when performing aerobic activities such as marching with heavy loads and working in the heat, since fat mass is inversely related to aerobic capacity and heat tolerance. Her lighter frame, moreover, makes her more likely to suffer injuries due to physical exertion. An Army study of 124 men and 186 women done in 1988 found that women are more than twice as likely to suffer leg injuries and nearly five times as likely to suffer fractures as men.
Tests of men and women entering the West Point class of 1980 found that, on average, the upper-body strength of women was 56 percent the strength of men, their leg strength 80 percent, and their gripping strength 69 percent. Even when height was kept constant, women possessed only 80 percent of the overall strength of men. After eight weeks of intensive training, male plebes demonstrated 32 percent more power in the lower body and peformed 48 percent more work at the leg press than female plebes. At the bench press, the men demonstrated 270 percent more power and performed an extraordinary 473 percent more work than the women.”
Larry Kummer Editor — “A new study in press at the Journal of Hand Therapy (yes, a real thing) finds that millennial men may have significantly weaker hands and arms than men the same age did 30 years ago.”
Hey! you know I used to read that Journal a lot during my youth, back then we called it ‘Playboy’. But the new name’s classier.
BTW Larry Kummer Editor, getting old isn’t always a rose garden. Now, after I shave my neck, I have to do my ears. Yes the insides too.
You are Officially Old when you praise God louder for getting rid of food than you do for ingesting it.
Perhaps I have over-shared? Oh well you only go senile once.
I teach at a private Christian school. It’s small, around a 100 students. The vast majority of the students, faculty, and parents are very conservative and church going folks. We pray in school, read our Bibles, and salute the flag. With all that being said, I can’t overstate how bad it is in the context of Dalrocks post and all of your replies, especially in regards to the parents.
The worst part is, I can’t fully explain the problem. It’s like something is missing. It’s like they have been inoculated to holiness and truth. These people know what to say and can act the part, but it’s like a program that they run. I almost had a psychological break over the summer when I began to question if it was something wrong with me, and everyone else was normal.
The worst part is when I bring these up in faculty meetings, most of the staff just say it’s just hormones or typical teenage behavior they will grow out of. But it’s not misbehavior, most of these kids are very well behaved, but it’s like they are alive but lifeless. When I challenge their salvation, they’ll respond with “I accepted Jesus and go to youth group and youth camp!”. The boys have no desire to lead, and the few who try give up because the girls won’t listen. Often it’s only the mothers who come in for ptc’s. When I talk to the mothers about my concerns the typical response is, “Well he/she is a lot better than I was at that age.” Ugh.
Now I feel guilty because I’m reaching a point where I just want to survive this without giving up and being pulled in, only thinking of my own survival. I fully believe we are living in Laodicea. Sorry for the long rant, hope it isn’t to ot.
jg1: I was rather shocked and surprised to hear this on my ride home!!!
Do Uber drivers talk a lot? It seems they do. That’s one reason I prefer taking a cab. Professional drivers just drive.
@Larry K
But today, older millennial men and women are roughly equal when it comes to grip strength.”
Also roughly equal when it comes to grip on reality.
@Luke
I hope she gets paralyzed from the neck down, and quickly.
Stay cool brother. I know the feeling but we don’t need or want that. She’s still salvageable at her age. She just needs a man in her life to provide over-watch and guidance. Now, finding him has proven to be a problem I will admit…
@Rick on August 28, 2018 at 7:38 pm
Sir,
I believe 2 Timothy 3:5 applies. People display a window dressing of faith, nothing more. Keeping up appearances while living like everybody else.
I doubt the girl’s father would be pleased if he had a son who wanted to break gender barriers by trying out for the cheerleading squad. If his son was Jesse Hernandez of the “Saintsations” he’d shit a brick.
Men, and now women, are praised for masculine accomplishments. Femininity means nothing to this society.
Rick @ 7:38 pm:
“The worst part is, I can’t fully explain the problem. It’s like something is missing. It’s like they have been inoculated to holiness and truth. These people know what to say and can act the part, but it’s like a program that they run. I almost had a psychological break over the summer when I began to question if it was something wrong with me, and everyone else was normal.”
I went through this in high school and college. Scripture taught one thing about men & women but every pastor and other authority figure taught differently. Unable to believe that either Scripture or everybody was wrong, I had a long time of confusion.
Eventually, I realized they were… as you put it, saying and acting the part but inoculated to truth. My own explanation is there’s a spiritual plague of unbelief today. Not an actionable theory so I don’t push it much, but you are not alone in noticing that reality doesn’t quite seem to be working right these days.
”He sounded conservative, however during the conversation I came to conclusion that he was a thoroughly cucked conservative man. ”
Unregenerate and unsaved.
@JBob
”I believe 2 Timothy 3:5 applies. People display a window dressing of faith, nothing more. Keeping up appearances while living like everybody else.”
Christ is not really their Lord. Else the change in character from salvation would have happened.
No holy spirit but slaves to their own sins still.
I am surprised no one else pointed out how striking of a resemblance this girl has (when without makeup) to The Boz. Maybe they are related, which may explain the inclination towards football :
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ_sW-LR22lgKfj0BWqoxqyaBX6-3Lp2K3yYrxUfDZ1ZBv0kU-pQQ
If she had any feminine awareness, she should be embarrassed by this. What woman wants to look like a thick-necked football player?
Rick —
Great post. A validation of the relevance of this site. If widespread feminism in prot ‘churches’ doesn’t bother you and make you question the Script you’re seeing played out, then the Lord isn’t in you. I know exactly what you mean because I interact with that same cohort, albeit in a different com format.
What you are witnessing isn’t common fault or sin, of the type we all have under these atmospheres. This is rebellion against God’s created order, which can’t be inverted — not without Him whomping you, that is. You confronted them with Scriptural truth and command, and they refused the truth. They will do their own wills — thus not merely standard unrighteousness and error, but PLEASURE and satisfaction in the error upon which they insist. Boasting of their error. It is Adam’s own rebellion against created order that these men are replicating — subjection to wives, daughters, and the feminist State, behind a veneer of Social Christianity.
2 Thessalonians:
“And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”
“Even him” references the antichrist, and those reflecting the antichrist spirit, meaning they deny the Father and Son in Person and as mirrored as dad/son on Earth, which the antichrist spirit seeks to supplant with the mother/daughter as effective deity.
You were v right to confront them with what God really wants, and expects, and it’s an act of love, because as the LORD makes skeerily clear in Malachi 4, any nation not actively restoring the father with son/family is on His hit list. They’ll get the back of His mouth and running won’t help. As the Big Chair your fellow parishioners will hear Him say something like What was your name again? Not very promising.
Try to reach as many people at this church as you can, even privately if you’re up for that. With this particular issue, it’s worth it. If they remain intransigent, then it’s not a place where an actual Christian should hang out.
This is a quote from the book, “The First World War” by Martin Gilbert.
This is a quote from the book, “The First World War” by Martin Gilbert. (pg 346)
“On the Eastern Front, among the Russian units in action, was the 300 strong woman’s batallion formed in May under the command of Maria Bochkareva……but Florence Farmborough, into whose field hospital at Seret some of the wounded women were brought in mid-August, wrote in her diary: ….it was recorded that they did go into the attack; they did go “over the top”. But not all of them…..Bachkarova retreated with her decimated batallion, she was wrathful, heartbroken, but she had learnt a great truth: women were unfit to be soldiers”.
Rick says:
August 28, 2018 at 7:38 pm
A Stepford Church school. Imagine …
Rick, the problem is simply this: you’re apparently the only serious Christian in an institution full of churchians. You take your faith seriously. The fraudroids around you don’t. You read (and absorb the message of) the Bible. The world worshipers who are your colleagues and students (and their parents) can’t be bothered. You recognize that as a Christian you cannot be of the World, even if you have no choice but to be in it. The cafeteria patrons who claim to be your fellow Christians would apostacize in a millisecond if faced with the choice of walking the talk and suffering the wrath of the World they adore (as did their First Century antecedents and as do many REAL Christians around the globe today) or keeping their comfy American Dream lifestyles.
You’re getting a small taste of what’s coming to ALL OF US, to the power of one million, sooner than we realize. Good has been labled evil and evil labeled good, and the Churchian PTB are determined to keep the Soma flowing in order to ensure that things stay that way.
Rick — “I fully believe we are living in Laodicea.”
You may be living in Laodicea, or at least visiting a lot. I’m not living in Laodicea nor are some others, whose home is Philly.
Related 1981 study “Strength comparisons in untrained men and trained women athletes”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7253873
“The purpose was to compare untrained college men with trained collegiate women basketball and volleyball players in terms of absolute and relative upper and lower body strength. Absolute and relative strength comparisons were also made between the two groups of women athletes.
Results indicate that untrained men have greater upper and lower body strength than trained women athletes in terms of both absolute and relative strength.”
Her Dad: “I …remember Bradley watching her tackle another player she went in and put her head right in his chest and took him to the ground and I thought to myself that’s my girl.”
In the year 1976, the tackling technique known as spearing was banned across the board. Associations such as the National Football League (NFL), the National Collegiate Athletic Association, and the National Federation of State High School Associations (NFSHSA) made it illegal to perform any kind of spearing or head down contact to another player.
Leave it to an ignorant Feminist to praise his daughter by describing an illegal tackle.
1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers [together] be not hindered.
Romans 3:4 May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written, “That You may be justified in Your words, And prevail when You are judged.”
God has told us that the wife is the “weaker vessel”. And I believe God completely, so that I will prevail when I am inevitably Judged.
Now I’m happy for some of y’all on this thread, that you can point to government medical studies(which are subject to rampant fraud) and that some Professional Wrestling videos to bolster the eternal words of the all-knowing Godhead. But, I’m a creature of childlike faith. And even if tomorrow somebody posted video proof of a female wrestler beating the snot out of giant of a man, I’d still be bitterly clinging to my sexist bigotry of women being weaker, because … Muh Bible!
So that’s why I don’t have to go around challenging random women to an arm-wrestle to figure this shit out. God had already determined that Adam should be able to overpower Eve, and not the other way around, before He ever made them. And for good reason too. Except for in the area of sexuality, where husband and wife both have power over the others body … Kinky! 1 Corinthians 7:4 Who says we don’t have a loving God?
@ray , Rick, feeriker, et al
More connect the dots fun with brought to us by Dalrock and the comments section. More incentive to invest in popcorn futures.
This topic always calls for Monty Python’s boxing a little girl skit:
I’ve never understood the draw Human Demolition Derby
“of”
He’s such a badass that even his daughter tackles other boys. Try to top that, men.
” In 15 years as a BSA leader I never heard dads speak so proudly as when saying that their daughters were tomboys.”
The dad is a wanker and the coach is talking shit.
The dad will rue the day he let her on the field when she busts bones, ends up broken and ugly, or worse – crippled. If she isn’t crippled physically, she’ll be crippled mentally with out-of-control hypergamy.
And the coach is just going to be laughed at by anyone competent.
A lot of it is status signaling by boosting of handicap. Its the same as back in the day of saying “you hunted a large deer, I’ve hunted a deer that big… while I was drunk!” If all you can do is average, you can boost of your disadvantages that actually you are better even if your results are the same.
Diversity is the same thing; people can show high status that they are so rich they can afford the burden of diversity.
More research is coming out that hormones are triggered by the sense of winning or losing. Empowering women is physically the same thing as masculinizing them as their testosterone increases. It is also the same as disempowering men which feminizes them with lower testosterone.
Lower T in men linked with more obesity. Higher T in women linked with more obesity. We are making everyone fat and unhappy.
Public schools is the win/lose system that kids’ brains are processing for most of their life. It is setup to reward girls with a sense of winning (increase their T) and punish boys that don’t want to listen to what stupid Ms. Crabapple says.
Is this really new?
My late Mother played LaCrosse (as well as Cricket) at what was an up-market Girl’s School founded for that purpose in 1726 and that (my Mother’s attendance thereat) was nearly one hundred years ago.
@Red Pill Latecomer
(it is obviously part of the Python’s joke but) Reigate is in the County of Surrey and not in the County of Kent.
Lower T in men linked with more obesity. Higher T in women linked with more obesity. We are making everyone fat and unhappy.
Satan laughs with delight at the success of his Deep State demon servants.
I’ll give you some of that as far as a link. But I think spiritual welfare which is leading to all sorts of disorder…including gluttony…is just as much a link to the growth of obesity.
@AnonS
Hard to make sense of obesity and hormone results as far as causality because peripheral fat contains enzymes which modify hormones.
Is sportsball still a thing? Are father’s still wasting their time with their sons in this foolish enterprise? Too funny.
Feeriker: “Satan laughs with delight at the success of his Deep State demon servants.”
That’s got to win “Best of Thread.”
On another subject, here’s a sample of future women’s literature …
In the West-That-Once-Was women wrote about how their lives changed when they had children. Now they write about how their life changed when they got cats.
“Cats, Doris Lessing, and Me” by Vivian Gornick in the New York Review of Books.
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/08/27/cats-doris-lessing-and-me/
I’ll bet we see a lot more of these essays in the future. These will get boring very quickly.
How many manosphere truths can be embedded into, or derived from, a graph?
Churchgoing girls should have this explained to them: they either find a man to marry in their early 20’s when the competition isn’t looking and help him to grow a career, OR they wait until 29.999 years of age and compete like crazy with all the others. Or cats.
It is reasonable to expect that Gen Z men will become much more choosy about female companionship, in a “what do you bring to the table beyond a vagina?” sense. That will include many of the churchgoing men in that cohort.
Again it looks to me that going forward marriage will be a practice primarily of upper middle / upper class subcultures and religious people,
Argh, wrong comment thread.
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@ray
Thanks for the words of encouragement. I’m considering my future with this job, as you said. Maybe I will go be a missionary in some dark corner of the world. Sometimes I get so lonely (not in the man/woman sense) I want to throw in the towel, get a better paying job and chase the American dream. This site helps.
Rick,
Hebrews 11:32 And what more shall I say? For time will fail me if I tell of Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, of David and Samuel and the prophets, 33 who by faith conquered kingdoms, performed acts of righteousness, obtained promises, shut the mouths of lions, 34 quenched the power of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, from weakness were made strong, became mighty in war, put foreign armies to flight. 35 Women received back their dead by resurrection; and others were tortured, not accepting their release, so that they might obtain a better resurrection; 36 and others experienced mockings and scourgings, yes, also chains and imprisonment. 37 They were stoned, they were sawn in two, they were tempted, they were put to death with the sword; they went about in sheepskins, in goatskins, being destitute, afflicted, ill-treated 38 (men of whom the world was not worthy), wandering in deserts and mountains and caves and holes in the ground. 39 And all these, having gained approval through their faith, did not receive what was promised, 40 because God had provided something better for us, so that apart from us they would not be made perfect. 12:1 Therefore, since we have so great a cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also lay aside every encumbrance and the sin which so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 For consider Him who has endured such hostility by sinners against Himself, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.
Diversity is the same thing; people can show high status that they are so rich they can afford the burden of diversity.
But the rich people DONT bear the burden….its the poor middle-class suckers like you and me. The rich get the tingles, we get the Third-World crime and filth.
Has anyone noticed these girls are usually kickers or quarterbacks?
This reminds me of the movie Little Giants, except that in that one, at least Becky the Icebox still retained a sense of sweetness and femininity, although I’m saying that partly because I had a crush on the actress who played her as a kid. This girl has no femininity in her, even with makeup.
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