From where else but the Daily Mail: Divorcée, 47, seeking romance on dating agency which promised the ‘crème de la crème of bachelors’ WINS £13,000 in court battle after it failed to provide a wealthy suitor (and £500 for her sadness)
The headline says she won £13,000, but the article explains that she had her fees refunded, was awarded £500 for suffering, and had to pay £5,000 for libel.
Why does she have to pay libel for a bad review if what she said was true?
“When she signed up with the agency in 2014, Mrs Burki’s requirements for the men she wanted to meet were ‘not modest’, the judge added”
The name of the agency is ‘Seventy – Thirty’.
I assume that is the respective ages of the men/women in order to land a wealthy man.
She lays out the whole hypergamy gambit in the article.
She demands the followings:
* A wealthy man with means equal to or higher than her own
* Ideally with ‘multiple’ residences
* Her soulmate should want more children, because she wants 4 in total.
I just skimmed the article – but I’m sure she’s not willing to date anyone over the age of 50.
She is 47 years old – Laughable. Welcome to the hell you created for yourself – solitude.
From a man’s perspective, she is a 3 at best…….and falling fast.
Ah modern justice…!
“Judge Parkes ruled the agency’s then managing director, Lemarc Thomas, was guilty of ‘deceit’ in misleading her.” “Judge Richard Parkes QC today ordered the agency to repay her fee, ruling that she had been ‘deceived’ by Seventy Thirty’s then-managing director.”
“Mrs Burki was ordered to pay Seventy Thirty £5,000 in libel damages after writing a damning Google review of the agency, describing it as ‘a scam’.”
So if you’re deceived, but write a review in which you call the deceiving party a ‘scam’, you’re convicted…
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@ Paul
The U.K. is screwed……they have gone full Marxism on free speech.
Call out the problems caused by I.S. migrants on social media and the police show up and arrest you.
Europe has it’s head so far up its own ass that they WILL fall to the I.S.
‘No Go’ zones in nearly every major ‘western’ European country?
Ten years ago no one could have conceived such bullshit would be tolerated.
Ditto the “Me Too” movement.
1) Strong men create good times……
2) Good times build weak men…..
3) Weak men create bad times…….
4) Bad times build strong men…….
Rinse….repeat.
We are currently at the tail end of # 3
This case is old news and the writing was on the (post) wall (heh) some time ago (re: the outcome .. it is the UK for goodness sake .. home of “moo-homo-IED” and no free speech).
But, it does show the “Entitled” nature of even post-wall wimminz.
This meltdown is coming to a larger audience very soon.
Nevermind her age and weight – she has a bad attitude. I would have said a “4” until I read and did adjusted for attitude/personality.
From this and another article I have a family member who dumped her on/off again to find a divorced father. The bio clock is 100% real and every 15 year old girl needs to understand that TIME is the worst enemy to women.
Two points :
i) I am certain that she describes herself as ‘sassy’ in her dating profile, and that she has been told that that is a plus.
ii) There is a high chance that she eventually falls for a Nigerian romance scam after she crosses 50.
Oh lol! Instead of offering to find her a rich suitor, they should have set up shop in Nigeria and pretend to be a one instead, asking her for money to help recover his family’s stolen wealth so that they can live together in matrimonial bliss.
@ Christopher Nystrom
Because her review was not true – the agency provide her with 5 matches – which probably given her laundry list of hypergamistic requirements, nearly impossible to match 100%. As far as I know, dating service do not promise matches that meet 100% of anyone’s requirement – they provide the matches closest and let one know common areas and areas that are different….buyer does the rest. The fact they were able to find 5 with the list she had means they did yoemans’ work for her.
In my day we would call her a skank and be done with her. The fact she had the gall and nerve to to think at her age any man with the “qualifications” she wanted would seek her out instead of a woman at least 15 years younger is beyond incredulous…..I would say she is delusional and should have been sent by the judge to have her head examined or at least her hind brain removed.
To paraphrase St. Paul, “old ladies, just don’t bother.”
If you haven’t prepared yourself for 4…do it now. You’re going to need it.
Why is ‘Mrs Burki’ gold-digging for a husband? Isn’t Mrs a sexist term of oppression? But beyond that, she has a cuck worth keeping but needs meh mo monie? I hate to admit this but she is not entirely ugly. I see a disturbing yet intriguing mix of enticing and repelling physical attributes if your old and alone enough. I don’t like rubberneckers. They gawk and objectify. I look at the piece and, well, rubberneck. Post-modern women are the spawn of beauty and ugliness, and in that lifetime battle, we know the LCD wins hands down. I think justice was served, but not by the headline. I don’t have a dog in the fight of lowlife cheat vs. lowlife cheat. What is interesting, even fascinating, but not surprising anymore is the presumption that she outright deserves success as a gold-digger. I don’t know why she can’t find a rich oil sheik in Londonistan.
I think you’re a bit optimistic in that assessment.
More proof that the infantile adults are in charge: “And the management consultant [Mrs Burki] would never have paid her money and joined up had Mr Thomas not knowingly given her ‘a wholly false impression’.”
Yes, a ‘manager’, an executive, a decider. I just can’t cooperate anymore.
The salespeople at dating clubs seem to be as honest as most used car salespeople, so plenty of blame to go around.
She is stupid, especially thinking she could have another child at 47, but they were also liars promising her a match meeting her specs. Plenty of lying liars and idiots to go around.
BillyS sez ..
She is stupid, especially thinking she could have another child at 47, but they were also liars promising her a match meeting her specs. Plenty of lying liars and idiots to go around.
Kinda warms your heart doesn’t it? It certainly warms mine. And, I have to be careful .. cuz’ I have a heart of ICE for these wimminz .. I wouldn’t want it to melt .. lol.
Chads aren’t the only ones who figured out how to ‘game’ women. You can certainly put this into that realm too.
I used to subscribe to Tempo magazine and I was always puzzled that in what is a quarterly review of Modern Music written and printed in England and aimed at impoverished English composers there were half-page adverts from Orly, Matchmaker to the Stars, of Beverley Hills. I checked her out and found that she had been forced to pay $2.1 million to an unhappy punter one Anne Majerik who had paid $125,000.00 dollars in fees.
What is amazing about Mrs Burki is that she was formerly a consultant at a company named ‘Gentlemen for Hire’ – so one would have thought that she would have known all about the difficulties that face Matchmakers.
Those legs……..eeeeuuuuuuuggghhhhhhhh.
Her blog is: twentynineandterrified.com
Where Have All The Good Men Gone?
September 17, 2017 10 Comments
I have been single for the past nine months. Before that brief relationship nine months ago, I had been single for about two years. That is a long time to be alone right? I take complete responsibility for that extended period of “singledome.” I was finding a new job and really I was finding myself again. I was not feeling confident or content with my life and I was scrambling to figure that out before I brought anyone else into my life.
My beeeautiful friend whom I shall call Em, is single as well. She has a far different dating life from mine. No two year treks of singleness for Em. Em hasn’t been lucky in love yet either, but perhaps she is more lucky in love than I am. She does at least meet men she wants to see more than twice. One thing I should mention is that Em isn’t exactly “looking” to meet anyone at this very moment.
Ok Em, ok.
Being single in your (very) late twenties is hard. A couple of months ago we went to a minor league baseball game, after a lot of rambunctious cheering I received a ball from a player with his phone number. Never one to turn down a baseball player, *wink wink* I text him and we all met up with him and his friends at a nearby bar. The night was long, hilarious and made absolutely no improvement to my love life. This brings me to problem number one of dating in your late twenties.
You are no longer 24.
Being 24 and being 29 are vastly different. At 24 I was young, naive, full of hope and open to all possibilities. Cute and funny guy with no real job, ehh he’ll get one! At 29 I am cynical, low on patience and know exactly what I want.
Problem number two…
You are over meeting men at bars.
Remember when you wore tight skirts and four inch heels every night to impress a bunch of men at a bar that were really only trying to sleep with you? Long gone are those days. It’s a win if you fix your hair at 29. Meeting the same intoxicated, over confident bachelors has lost its appeal. Not to mention there is still a crowd of 22 year old girls with tight skirts and perfect contouring at these bars. Who has time to compete with that? You work FULL time at a job you probably hate no less.
Problem number three…
You don’t have the energy you did when you were younger.
It used to be easy to hit four social events in one weekend. But between work, the gym, sleeping and running errands you are struggling to make it to one now. Being a grown up is no joke! There is so much to get done all the time. You don’t want to spend valuable hours sitting at a restaurant, hoping an attractive man will walk through those doors and sweep you off your feet. You want to know where these men are going to be dang it!
AND SO DO I!
AND SO DOES EM!
She just doesn’t know it yet.
I believe other women are feeling the way Em and I feel. So, I have decided to help you all out. I am going to do a lot of research and work for you. I have already read too many articles to count today on the best places to meet single men. Good single men. In addition to the research articles I found on the web, I have collected data on places and events good men go to. Basically, I just asked good men. They know where they go better than anyone right?
Over the next 90 days I am going to attend said events and places and make a genuine effort to connect with good men!
I must warn you, I am extremely picky which is why I have made this a 90 day mission instead of a 30 day mission (what I originally wanted to do HA) BUT I’m pretty sure I am also extremely approachable, so maybe it will even itself out?
Wish me luck on what I like to call my 90 Day Meet-A-Man Mission!
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September 22, 2017
JJ
Funny how their ‘awakening’ seems to hit them at 29.
At 24 they’ll take any ole Chad their tight miniskirt and alcohol can attract…at 29 you must be the cream of the crop. Let’s not forget how much Chad sperm went in or how many eggs went by the wayside in those 5 years.
I’m in my mid-40s and never one of these women gave me a second look for marriage material when I was younger.
Pedicate eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt meretrices..
Her ninety days are up and guess what?!……
She’s still single! Lol! Why won’t those men settle down with her, dammit!?
I’m no Sherlock Jones…but…
‘I must warn you, I am extremely picky which is why I have made this a 90 day mission instead of a 30 day mission (what I originally wanted to do HA) BUT I’m pretty sure I am also extremely approachable, so maybe it will even itself out?’
Up above there are some strange views on English Contract Law so I thought that I ought to explain what it was that His Honour Judge Parkes Q.C. had to decide: was it Puff or was it a term of the contract when the proprietor led Mrs Burki to believe that the agency were flooded with Millionaires desperate to wife up forty-seven year old divorcees with children? I am not going to decide whether he was right or wrong (we can leave that to the Court of Appeal) but in his judgement he was of the view that it was a term of the contract. As the agency were not so flooded Mrs Burki was misled and was thus entitled to the refund. That Mrs Burki paid what was for most people a vast sum of money was not (or rather should not have been) a consideration for His Honour. The principle would have been the same had she paid a mere £12.50 or indeed any other sum.
This has been English Law since at least 1892. This Monty Python sketch makes the position clearer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3KBuQHHKx0.
Duh, that’s a first price right there!
But the most important factor for Mrs Burki, who lives on an upmarket street in Chelsea, West London, was that her soulmate would be prepared to have more children, as she wanted four.
She is a 47 year old divorcee, probably living on alimony and child support from her ex husband. Has three young kids. And believes, yes, actually believes, she can have another child.
At age 47.
With three kids already.
SMH
@ Christopher Nystrom:
Why does she have to pay libel for a bad review if what she said was true?
Libel/slander laws are a bit different in the UK than they are in the US. In the US, her Google and Yelp reviews wouldn’t have been libelous at all. They’re opinions. Calling a business that kind of didn’t give you what you wanted a “scam” in the US isn’t libelous and even if it is, the damages aren’t much. It doesn’t say what she said in her review, other than it was a “scam”. That isn’t really actionable here. But in the UK it is. C’est la Legalities.
Women don’t self-reflect. That’s why the “conservative” feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers are wrong: women won’t recognize their errors even after they’ve hit the wall. They’ll blame their failures on men. Women can’t be “free and equal beings” because they don’t accept the obligations of being a free citizen.
It seems Red Pill awareness is accelerating hard.
This guy was attacked cause he follows the Pence Rule. And he is the worlds No.1 Streamer with 10 million subs.
Most importantly, he did not apologise, did not grovel, did not submit. It’s how he is, deal with it.
He was also defended by the No.1 Youtuber with 67 million subs.
Something patriarchal this way comes.
She may have wanted another kid for another 18 years of financial support. With her being 47, the three existing ones were probably no longer financial assets.
I have sadness! Hey over here I have sadness too!
Send the 500 pounds payable to the Court. Thanks PMS May! You’re a peach.
Related, did I ever tell you the one about the two snowflakes that walked into the desert? Without a Bible? Because they didn’t believe in the myth of heat.
https://www.pluralist.com/posts/1824-millennial-couple-bikes-near-isis-territory-to-prove-humans-are-kind-and-gets-killed?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=share
I have collected data on places and events good men go to. Basically, I just asked good men. They know where they go better than anyone right?
So she already knows “good men.” Are none of them single? I presume some are. But none of them meet her “extremely picky” standards.
So she friend zones the “good men” she already knows, and goes in search of other “good men.”
Clearly, she isn’t seeking “good men.”
@ Red Pill
Perhaps if she didn’t mention how unpicky she was when the tight skirts and alcohol did the trick…I could slightly believe the more pickiness she has now. But nonetheless you are correct…she isn’t seeking good men.
1. Ms Burki has elephantine legs, that means cellulite up top. That means if she remotely looks in shape, she’s wearing Spanx. When they come off, salami rolls are going to appear everywhere.
2. At 47, pregnancy may still be possible, but its’insanely risky. The risk of a Down Syndrome or birth defective child is huge.
3. She was tricked!!!, Yes, Tricked I tell you – into the agency promising one thing but not delivering.I recall one reader here having said, ”If women can’t make and own responsible choices, then maybe the Saudis have a point. Don’t leave home unveiled and unescorted. Don’t drive a car. Don’t expect highly paid responsible jobs. Because of that you won’t need an education…”
What I don’t understand, is WHO gives her the money and why?
Bingo. And she wonders why all the hot rich men weren’t lining up to marry her? She’s either (a) insane or (b) insane. Or both.
Yep, that’s a toughie, all right.
Wrong. The reason they can’t be “free and equal beings” is because they weren’t designed to be “free and equal beings”. Being daughters of Eve, though, they are all cursed with the desire to become like men.
English Libel/Slander Law is notoriously harsh and a way for wealthy people to make easy money – ask the late Liberace who ‘cried all the way to the Bank’ when he successfully sued The Daily Express for implying that he Liberace was a Homosexual (and there was me thinking he was a Pianist). England has no first Amendment: an action against one for Libel is rare but thousands of people are prosecuted each week for saying the wrong thing on-line. We don’t know the Judge’s reasoning as to why he felt that although Mrs Burki had been misled she had not been so far misled as to rightly describe 30/70 as a scam. To expect a member of the public to not merely accurately predict what a Judge might later decide let alone in the moment to draw a dividing line between fair comment and defamation seems to me to place an onerous burden on any person leaving a comment on a forum designed for leaving comments.
Some your guys’ comments are hilarious. I almost coughed up my coffee laughing.
Dalrock,
Off-topic but may I suggest an article on something very interesting I learned today when reading about Aretha Franklin’s death? Her “feminist anthem” R-E-S-P-E-C-T was written by a man (Otis Redding) demanding respect from (and relief from) his nagging wife / girlfriend. It was essentially hi-jacked and repurposed by Franklin.
Redding didn’t live long enough afterwards to enjoy many of the royalties. He died at 26.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/aretha-franklin-made-respect-feminist-anthem-143229602.html
“1. Ms Burki has elephantine legs, that means cellulite up top. That means if she remotely looks in shape, she’s wearing Spanx. When they come off, salami rolls are going to appear everywhere.”
Damn. And they say I’M brutal.
mr. teebs —
Wow. Great find.
I heard on the radio today that Aretha Franklin (not Otis Redding) wrote “R-E-S-P-E-C-T.” Redding wrote the rest of the lyrics, but it was Franklin’s idea to spell out the word.
RPL,
The radio station is wrong. Redding wrote the entirety of the lyrics and is always credited as the writer (both words and music). Franklin modified the lyrics, changed the style from slow and mournful to driving and belligerent, and made the song famous. The song was always titled “Respect” but Franklin had the idea to spell it out one letter at a time. And alter the tempo/style. And flip the original meaning. Because solipsism.
Why does this pattern of hi-jacking seem so familiar? Men build. Women largely occupy what they did not build. Then, they eject the builders. Or, if they co-labor they forget the man’s contribution as the hamster springs into overdrive. Proverbs 14:1.
RPL,
I should have read more closely. I think we are saying the same thing and the radio station is technically right. Franklin’s contribution was to spell it out. I was focused on the word “write” and was equating that with songwriter credits. She is only the singer – not the writer.
Am I just cynical now? But if a 47 year old woman wants to have a child, that is just selfish, considering all the possible bad outcomes for the child. I think she just wants to get her claws into the rich guy for more child support money. And of course he had to have more money than her. That also points to a financial motive. And then he must have more than one residence. I presume so she could easily take one of them in the divorce. I would think a rich guy who owned multiple houses in London could find a better deal than a desperate average looking 47 Year old divorcee who wanted to burden him with a possibly special-needs child, before absconding with all of his livelihood. I also noticed she posed for her pictures on beds. Subliminally baiting the man with the sex she will likely deny him after marriage, leading to yet another divorce. If anything is a scam, it is her. Crazy man-trap!
Although the agency boasted of more than 7,000 members, the truth was that only about 100 of them were men actively looking for love, he said.
This is the inverse of Ashley Madison, where as it turned out the number of male customers hugely outnumbered actual female customers.
@mrteebs
” Her “feminist anthem” R-E-S-P-E-C-T was written by a man (Otis Redding) demanding respect from (and relief from) his nagging wife”
St. Paul could have written that song:
Eph 5:However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
When was the last time you heard that song play in church with an exposition that wives should respect their husbands?
Re: millenial couple sets out to proves humans are kind.
The hypothesis has thus been experimentally falsified.
But at the cost of the tragic death of these nice bikers. Time to get back to reality and acknowledge the nature of the world we live in: humans are deeply stained by sin. Everybody with any sense for history should be honest enough to recognize that. But leftist ideology rather depicts all humans as inherently good and any deviation of that norm caused by “injustice”. It’s killing people.
Ps 53:3 “Everyone has turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.”
“Am I just cynical now?”
The choice nowadays appears to be between being cynical or being a sucker. Choose wisely 😉
Did you see her legs?
Related, did I ever tell you the one about the two snowflakes that walked into the desert…
All such leftist whackjobs should embark upon a similar pilgrimage. A rite of passage away from the layers of protection they enjoy in this country which allows them to think/act/speak/protest the way they do. The layers of protection they loathe and vilify.
Great find ray.
Christopher Nystrom: Truth is a defense against libel in the U.S.A., but not in the U.K. The U.K. is famous for its harsh laws in the area, and many people who want to sue for speech try to do it in the U.K. since suits that would be no-starters in other jurisdictions can win there.
Your name makes me think you are Swedish. It might be good to know that truth is not a complete defense in Sweden either, and over there one can actually be criminally prosecuted for slander (unlike most countries where it is only a civil matter).
JRob,
There’s a long history of such attempts. For example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pippa_Bacca
Unfortunately, there are far too few. Leftists don’t learn from history, or observation. That’s why they’ll make Socialism work this time.
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@Karl
In England truth is a good defence against an action for Defamation – at least if my memory serves me right it was when I studied the subject.
Dalrock, and the comments community: maybe you’ll be interested in that article. I don’t know if you’ve heard about a millionnaire male gamer that suffered a backlash because he said he wouldn’t play live/stream with women.
https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/14/17688392/ninja-fortnite-women-streaming-harassment
That’s why things like socialism will never work.
Burki is a common Swiss name.
I say, I wonder if the dating agency ‘sold’ Ms. Burki as ‘creme de la creme’ to its male clients…in which case there might be a parody court case or two to follow?
Desperately sad to see someone lay themselves open to such humiliation. She must know she is not a catch (any longer). She may have been once, but sadly no longer. Why would she make a public spectacle of herself so?
Technically, the Judge was right to award her the money (back). But from a common sense point of view, this judgment makes no sense and compounds the ridiculousness of Ms. Burki’s expectations. But then perhaps that was the whole point of the judgment…to provide a laugh or two for bored Judges…
@Spacetraveller
Isn’t protecting people from confidence artists and scams regarded as a public good, even when people enter in such arrangement willingly? These grifters conned a lot of money out her before she woke up to what they were doing. It is unfortunate though that the UKs libel laws make it difficult to acknowledge that this is actually a scam.
what happens now when a woman on any dating site “doesn’t get the man of her dreams” from use? Will she be entitled to a refund and emotional damages? What about the billion or so men on these sites who never get a look? I have more of a shot on landing and winning on “dialing for dollars” than getting interest from a dating site. Been on ‘christiancrush’ for two years. Paid a bunch of money for a “dating expert” to do my profile write ups with me…..and one hit in four years. So, do I get money for emotional damage now? lol!
correction. been on for four years. paying member for two. A waste
Why would you degrade yourself this way?
It seems much more sensible for you to go out soul dancing and meet women there. I doubt every single one of the hot black chicks you dance with is a total skank. Lots of them are there looking for a man. A few of them might be worthy of your prolonged attention.
Boxer
JRob —
“All such leftist whackjobs should embark upon a similar pilgrimage. A rite of passage away from the layers of protection they enjoy in this country which allows them to think/act/speak/protest the way they do. The layers of protection they loathe and vilify.
Great find ray.”
Thank you. Source credit to Daily Crow — which, btw, is a leading-edge site for Christian eschatology and its refractions in modern culture.
As you wrote, it is EXACTLY this Bubble Life cocooning that produces modern leftists/progs. The females, especially, are so shielded and protected from reality, from the cradle on, that they’re unable to form mature, adult conclusions about the surrounding world. Both the Left and Right are guilty of this, hey just TRY telling a modern ‘conservative’ that it would benefit his Princess if she were LESS privileged, protected, feted, and empowered. He’ll want to go to war with you.
Because they will not permit their precious ones to encounter the true and real world, such children when becoming ‘adults’ fail miserably, at everything, and ruin everything. Paradoxically, these millions of Cocoon People are then left defenseless before the world as it really it. Once it intrudes, which eventually, it will. Yeah me and my girlfriend will just go for a nice bike ride over by Pakistan. They make the BEST falafels there!
Black chicks at soul night:
I’m a better soul dancer than most of the brothers. The brothers are freakin cool. Hi-fivin’ and all. Asking me to show them some steps….fun…the women usually are *ticked* that there actually could be racial harmony on a dance floor that doesn’t involve “twerkin” or “Beyonce” or “Booty”
Soul nights in the vein I attend (music pre oil embargo…….that embargo ruined everything in 73) are mostly men forgetting about their stupid jobs, bills, and nonsense they put up with from the x-wife, x-gf, or x-roommates
The game is rigged. 18+ years ago I went on a Christian Matchmaker site for a free two week trial, and I contacted a small number of responsive women, I was also contacted by some interested women. I ended up marrying one of the women I contacted, and it has been hell ever since. I’m in the midst of a nasty divorce. Don’t feel too bad that you didn’t win the “Prize”. It turns out, for me it was a literal “Booby Prize”.
ray,
My father once told me, “I shelter your mother from the real world so she thinks life is fair.”
lol@JRob
My father once said to me when I was back visiting home during summer break from grad school…..my mother was annoyed at him over something…….I mentioned on the porch while having cigarette “what’s up with mom?”
“Beats the hell out of me” my dad said “She’ll get over it or she’ll die” he continued without batting an eye and a few minutes later yelled for her to get “Me and the boy a beer”
She came out gave us each a beer, and slammed the door HARD when she went back in, and she didn’t say a word. Dad toast with me “She brought me a beer. She’s not that mad”
“Been on ‘christiancrush’ for two years. Paid a bunch of money for a “dating expert” to do my profile write ups with me…..and one hit in four years.”
What a waste of money. All of this except learning Game (which isn’t that hard).
Anon…..I did learn game…failed miserably and it made me feel, behave, and act “worse” than beforehand.
Wimminz hate to see men socializing, and exploiting racial tensions is one of the primary ways the skanks remain in control of any social situation. Black wimminz do this as often as white wimminz. I run in similar circles, quite often, and see it myself. Whenever a black chick comes on to me in an especially overt way, I just take it for granted that she’s got a black husband someplace, and she’s using me to publicly humiliate him. It’s astounding how often this happens.
Even so, not all black chicks who dance with you are snow-sharking or otherwise using you as a fetish, or as a means to piss off hubby or daddy. There are some cool females out there. Some of these women you hang with anyway are probably decent. If they’re not observant Christians, you could probably convert / revert them. Just a thought.
There are some aspects of “game” that are objectively abhorrent to any gentleman playa. “Negging” is one. If I call some wimminz an idiot, and she responds positively, then I don’t want to waste any time with her. I don’t like idiots and don’t find them attractive in the first.
I’ve seen the way you dress, in your photos. I would say that if you’re comfortable on the dance floor, and you dress well, you’ve already got game, and don’t know it. Being a skillful dancer is very attractive to many women.
Eh debatable Boxer on that…..dancing that is…….seen guys who sit and never dance at Motown night, and he’s got that killer profile………doesn’t have to do a thing. They approach him.
Classic R&B / Soul / Motown / Northern soul is a guys “dance” scene. It really is. Been dancing to music like this since the mid 1990’s. Mostly men. Mostly working class. The bartender. The dishwasher. Guys who work at the car wash, assembly line worker……low end temp / office clerk. They come to dance. Not pick-up, hook-up or have something to prove. Seen it. Done it. Lived it. I know what I am talking about here.
The kind of career and work that doesn’t perk the interest in women. Most of the guys over the decades I have noticed in this scene also dance to forget about their situations…..the sound is masculine. No tuxes and evening wear. Maybe a white shirt and tie at the most. Marvin Gaye understands you. Martha Reeves would dance with you. Gladys Knight would have a drink with you. Stevie Wonder has hope for you.
The dances are not hard per say, but its the cut and technique to the off-beat and sway that counts and makes it look *tight* and *outta sight*
I’ve never seen a fight at one of these kinds of dances.
White women usually watch, but will dance only when they can try to twerk on someone….and they all think they are it. Even the oversized ones. Every white gitl thinks she “can dance” and the ones I have danced with at Motown night are like dragging a statue on the floor.
Danced with some cool black girls……a slow Roberta Flack number was starting up (feel like makin’ love, 1974) was walking off the floor. Just happened to make eye contact with a black girl, she smiled, I put out my hand, she got up. We had a nice slow dance. Manners. She may not have found me “attractive” but when I offered. She obliged.
White girls will give you the smellin onions look if you don’t match her fantasy of what you had better look like.
Dancin’s alright as Smokey would say. The soul scene is a guys scene. It aint ballroom, nor do the men look like they belong in gay porn
‘If I call some wimminz an idiot, and she responds positively, then I don’t want to waste any time with her.’
Besides who wants a relationship based off who can push whose buttons?
She could certainly use the divorce court as a ‘neg’.
What is the difference between teasing and bullying?
That’s what the difference between negging and insulting is.
Instead of pedestalizing women, saying her that you’d crawl in the desert to have a shot at licking her feet in deference, you have to know and act like she is someone like you, not better than you because she has the pussy. And instead of adoration, where she’d have disdain for someone lower than her, negging makes her want to earn your approval .
Oh, btw, I read that on one of the manosphere PUA blogs, field tested it and I concur, negging and being cocky work better on sluts. Sluts need a lot of negging.
Women with a low N count will stare at you with disapproval if you are cocky and neggy.
Women with a high N count believe they are better than you, unless you remind them that you’re above them by not being impressed by their verbal attack.
CSI,
“Isn’t protecting people from confidence artists and scams regarded as a public good, even when people enter in such arrangement willingly?”
Sure…
But I am not entirely sure a dating agency promising you the match of your life is ‘fraudulent’ as such. At worst, it is ‘exaggerated marketing’ in my opinion. And everyone knows there are many factors involved in choosing a marriage partner, all of which a dating agency cannot possbly overcome. Figure in the fact that we are talking about a 47 year old woman, divorced, three presumably biologically children…and we are not talking about a ‘prize’ for any man, least of all a millionaire, who has more options than the average man, not less!
Therefore what this 47 year old woman, with all the ‘negatives’ she comes with (and no, I don’t think children or her age SHOULD be ‘negatives’, but the reality is, they are, in the marriage market) could expect, was far less than what was promised. She should have ‘taken her chances’ and ‘gone with the flow’ and not sue the dating agency for something we all know (including her!) they could not deliver.
If we are really to believe that she went all in, with all her somewhat negative attributes
1) believeing she deserved the ‘creme de la creme’ and
2) expecting the ‘creme de la creme’,
then this discussion we are all having should stop, pronto and we should all go home.
🙂
I was this weekend away from home as we were invited to a big birthday party of an older friend of ours from out of town. Interestingly enough, his wife when they met a few years ago, was a 47 year old divorcee with 3 kids (he was divorced too, and 5 years older). He IS creme de la creme, and she treats him accordingly. But she did not feel ENTITLED to him, and yet, she is a very pretty lady (still), is very youthful and in shape and feminine/traditional in the sense that she is queen of their domestic realm. She cooked for us all weekend, made us feel at home, etc.
So even a 47 year old divorcee with three kids can ‘stick the landing’ as Dalrock puts it. But it is still quite rare, and to achieve it requires a special kind of luck and grace. And hard work.
I don’t think Frau Burki is willing to put in the hard work. She prefers to throw a tantrum when it doesn’t go well for her.
And I think the Judge is having a laugh at her expense.
By the way, I had asked for Dalrock to provide me (cos I’m Special!) with good role models/examples of godly womanhood.
My request turns out to be superfluous – on that same thread he was talking about Lori Alexander’s viral post. Now THAT’s a godly woman, if ever there was one! So my wish was granted immediately and I didn’t even realise it at the time.
And then there’s my friend’s wife who is another real life example – albeit divorced.
(But I’m not fussy who teaches me) 🙂
I laughed when I read that article. Lemmings rush into “Internet dating services” with all kinds of fantasies. In my observations, the females are pumped and dumped by male players while the females themselves ultimately try to trap the males into marriage (or at least a monogamous relationship) to exploit their utility. Honestly, it’s all BS. I like to live in reality. I like to win in reality. If I want to explore fantasy, I’ll watch Lord of the Rings. Now it’s time to hit the weight pile. Getting big, getting lean, getting to be a machine! :).