If you haven’t watched Tucker Carlson’s new show on Fox*, it is worth watching purely for entertainment value. Carlson has an unmatched ability to get his guests to say the most ridiculous things. It is truly extraordinary.
Earlier this week Carlson interviewed Stephen Ledrew, formerly the president of Canada’s Liberal Party, regarding Canadian teachers being taught about the “LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP community.”
Well, the tolerance police have a lot of power here in America, in case you haven’t noticed, but they’re even stronger in Canada. Just yesterday Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau delivered an official apology to gay and transgender Canadians for the past state discrimination against them. But now, teachers in Durham, Ontario, had to attend an inclusiveness training course for the–deep breath here–LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP community, which is apparently a community. That 15-letter acronym, intended to encompass all sexual minorities, may soon be required soon at schools.
Anyone trying to defend the obvious absurdity of LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP is naturally going to need to play a game of motte and bailey. In the interview, Ledrew does his best to pretend that no one really wants to make LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP part of the culture, as LGBTQ is the acronym everyone currently uses. As the argument goes, critics like Carlson are the ones being absurd by even bringing the idea of LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP up. But Carlson knows that Ledrew has a problem; Ledrew can’t criticize the absurdity of LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP without risking the wrath of the SJWs behind this latest culture war offensive. Ledrew wants to imply that no one takes LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP seriously, but he simultaneously has to take LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP seriously or he knows he will be cast out of the warren for being insufficiently inclusive.
Watch as Carlson calmly and effortlessly maneuvers Ledrew from the motte to the bailey, forcing Ledrew to either defend the indefensible or betray the SJW objective. As so often happens on Carlson’s program, hilarity ensues.
*I was pleasantly surprised at how good Carlson is at his craft, as I have been critical of him in the past.
They forgot another P, for pedophile, and ‘+’, for plus-size. Yes, fat is now a gender.
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Gunner,
Are you sure one of those “A”s isn’t for adipose?
It really is that simple if you stick to debate without going down the route of namecalling and insults when your opponent does it.
As so often the case, Monty Python satirized it first. In this case, treating ridiculously long names seriously …
And the Very Silly Party candidate’s absurdly inane name at the 3’50” mark :
Satire in ca. 1970 has become reality today.
“The acronym stands for Lesbian, Gay, Genderqueer, Bisexual, Demisexual, Transgender, Transsexual, Twospirit, Intersex, Queer, Questioning, Asexual, Allies, Pansexual and Polyamorous”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5123013/Teachers-federation-conducts-LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP-training.html
Well, shoot. I’m *questioning*, too–questioning the sanity of the person who created this acronym.
Ha, and I couldn’t help but be reminded of this:
And this is why Trump will win again in 2020.
ROFL
I cant wait for this acronym to be 100 letters long. The fact that being 15 letters long is already absurd seems to be lost on the left.
LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP sounds like a town in Iceland.
“LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP”? I don’t see an F in there, so I’m guessing that means that they have no interest in advocating for the Furries. Someone really should tell those blue-haired Johnny-come-latelys to get over their petty hang-ups, because if you’re a real minority advocate that means you take up the cause for all modes of sexual expression. It’s 2017, people!
@earlthomas786
Carlson makes it look easy, but this doesn’t mean it is easy. Ledrew is far better at this than Carlson makes him look. He is constantly offering bait to change the framing of the conversation. When he can’t dismiss Carlson as being absurd for even talking about LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP, he very cleverly tries to bait Carlson into a tolerance vs intolerance debate. 99% of conservatives would have taken the bait, and then Ledrew could have easily run out the clock accusing Carlson of wanting to throw gay people off of roofs, etc. When Carlson won’t go for that bait, he tries to bait him into a US vs Canada discussion. This one almost works, but Carlson recovers after pointing out Ledrew’s lie regarding free speech and tolerance of dissenting views in Canada.
LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP isn’t inclusive enough. It should be ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ. Whatever your identity, it starts with one of those letters, so my acronym really includes everyone!
Canadians that I’ve met are invariably polite and always willing to compromise. Probably that makes them very easy to bully. Ledrew is rather obvious in his “good cop” role, pretending the “bad cop” is nowhere to be found. His body language is painfully obvious as he gets pushed into the bailey. Bow tie adds extra to the social commentatorness.
I could start watching TV again, except it appears a lot of Tucker Carlson’s better work is on YouTube.
we need a another “B” for “beastie” for those guys, and girls that evidently “want” to have sex with animals……..evidently “all women” want to have sex with a horse, and all men want to shag sheep
@Dalrock says: Carlson makes it look easy, but this doesn’t mean it is easy. Ledrew is far better at this than Carlson makes him look. He is constantly offering bait to change the framing of the conversation. When he can’t dismiss Carlson as being absurd for even talking about LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP, he very cleverly tries to bait Carlson into a tolerance vs intolerance debate. 99% of conservatives would have taken the bait
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I definitely have learned the hard way that this is more difficult than most people realize. The goal is to either beat your arguments by putting you on the defensive, or allow an attack on you to go unanswered.
I remember spending too much time defending against being motivated by racism, so at a subsequent meeting I stayed on the facts to which the lady responded “Hmmmm… you take exception to everything I say except when I point out it’s racist. That’s interesting.”
It was beyond frustrating. I was less experienced then, and caught off guard by the absurd accusation. It would have been more effective if I would have pointed out “hmm, the evidence must be really compelling if your only hope is to focus on skin color.”
It really is more difficult than most people get.
@Trust
It’s certainly good to know what things they will use to project onto you. It’s often a revelation of their own heart. I.E. people who accuse you of being racist are often racists themselves.
And sometimes it’s just to throw your emotions out of whack because they are losing the argument so it’s their last ditch effort to have people remember you were an emotional volcano instead of the facts.
“I cant wait for this acronym to be 100 letters long. ”
I sure would not be surprised. We’re talking about people who live to be outraged. There is no pleasing them, because the instant they are pleased they become irrelevant.
“The acronym stands for Lesbian, Gay, Genderqueer, Bisexual, Demisexual, Transgender, Transsexual, Twospirit, Intersex, Queer, Questioning, Asexual, Allies, Pansexual and Polyamorous”
A lot of those seem like the same damn thing. I think they’re just fluffing up their collective resume’.
Y’all seen the German politician who addressed all 60 genders. It’s hilarious. With English subtitles.
Darwinian Arminian @ 2:31 pm:
“I don’t see an F in there, so I’m guessing that means that they have no interest in advocating for the Furries.”
Furries don’t count because when the convention is over, they take their suits off and act normal again. SJWs don’t like people maintaining two separate identities like that. It reminds them of Batman.
@earlthomas786 says:
It’s certainly good to know what things they will use to project onto you. It’s often a revelation of their own heart. I.E. people who accuse you of being racist are often racists themselves.
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Similar to the boohooing about what shared custody does to “50% moms.” They had no sympathy for the 10% dads.
Even shared custody isn’t always 50%. One of my good friends got cheated on and divorced by his wife. Even though she makes more than him AND shares her bills with a live-in boyfriend, he still has to pay her child support.
The lack of self-awareness among those making accusations of bigotry, intolerance, etc., is mind-boggling.
I hate to say this…..but the “culture war” is over and we lost. best to stand firm the best we can on His word and Truth. We are going to become an ever increasingly smaller bunch. The re-education camps in the future instead of swastikas will have a rainbow armband with a peace symbol on it, and the clubs will be used with just as much (if not more) frequency
I suspect that the people who are increasing exponentially the number of Sexes beyond two are the same people denying the existence of borders between countries.
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Hunh.
Well, first of all, I didn’t realize that “Allies” was a “sexual orientation”, even by the twisted “logic” of the Gramscian Left. What? Gramsci? Who? Well, you could click on the link, I guess, and find out in detail, but in the next paragraph here, I will try to give you a TL;DR of its main point:
Back well over 130 years ago, in an interview with Bakunin, someone or other asked him what made his lot (the original Anarchists) different from the Marxists¹. He replied, more or less, “The Marxists claim, that if you overthrow Capitalism, then in time The State will wither away. We believe that if we can destroy The State, then Capitalism will wither away. So, our objectives are the same, but our understanding of strategy is different.” And, Gramsci fits in here because, his argument was that again instead, since it was “Bourgeois values” that actually underpinned the structure of Society, especially “middle class” sexual mores, Marx & Bakunin were both wrong (said Gramsci),the critical thing to do was therefore to destroy The Family, — and, when The Family was destroyed, both Capitalism & The State would wither away.
Anyway, back to “Allies” …
They don’t mean the people who landed at Normandy in 1944 + the Soviets, rather they mean any heterosexual person who takes seriously and accepts this sort of laughable rubbish (i.e., SJWs). So, there you go: SJW is a “gender”. Or something. Whatever.
[Incidentally, the only ones who are left off that list of capitals, are the remaining ~97%² of us or so who aren’t gender dysphoric, once you’ve subtracted out all the SJW “Ally” dotards.]
To simplify “Theory” even further, note that everything human is under attack, here — human production (economic freedom) and human reproduction (i.e., The Family, not just context-free “sex”, absent its actual purpose, but with its actual purpose; so, — the Garden where we grow the next crop of human beings), and also orderly society. I hope it goes without saying that Marxist Socialists, Anarchists and Gramscian Socialists are all also keen on the abolition of Religion (i.e., freedom of conscience), too.
So, our enemies here (even if you are entirely secular-minded, they are your enemies) are opposed to: economic freedom, human reproduction, freedom from violence, and freedom of conscience.
Make no mistake: since ordinary heterosexual PIVMO sex is how our species reproduces, the Enemies of ordinary heterosexual PIVMO sex are the Enemies of our species³.
In other words, the fully distilled-out essence of all this is, “Die, Humanity, Die!” — or, if you are of a religious bent, “Humanity, Go To Hell!”
Whether you capitalize the “d” or not, we are dealing with something that IMHO is undeniably diabolical/Diabolical.
But there’s another point here that I don’t see being made (out there in the non-Dalrockian universe, I mean): look at all those letters in that stupid acronym — contemplate all that proliferation of Identity Politics subdivisions. What’s going on, here? IMHO, these “categories” multiply endlessly, because like a cat arching its back to appear larger when frightened, or something like that, the self-appointed SJW representatives of the roughly 2.5% to 3.5% of humanity (maximum) who fit into all of those categories put together, are trying to pretend that the gender dysphoria crowd outnumber the 97% of us who weren’t given any letter.
“Allies”, does not belong on that supposed list of “orientations”: the fact that it is self-evident padding, gives the game away.
The “marketing” logic would be, since there are so many of these groups, this flood-tide of sexual variety surely will over-wash the single category that the “straight” 97% occupy. Consider, though, that 97% to 3% is a ratio of over 32 to 1. In fact, it is worse for the SJWs than that: those Gays & Lesbians who wanted to be able to legally marry, are not going to take kindly to the dismantling of The State, as it is literally the only thing that legitimizes their claim to married status. And then, there are the self-described “Libertarian Gays”, who are pro-free-market. And so on.
So, there is no question that the SJW idiots will lose. The only question is, will they take down civilization with them. I deeply suspect that they will indeed try to do that.
Just a few observations.
— Pax Christi Vobiscum
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¹ My apologies to any ex-LDS, self-described “Marxists” out there.
I am sure you realize I am boiling it all down to a HS-level residue.
² If you are still swayed by the “10%+ of us are Gay” cr@p, may I
suggest you go read a biography of Alfred Kinsey, and see how
and why he knowingly and deliberately invented this dishonest
and unscientific number. That it lives on, like some sort of ugly,
shuffling undead factoid, is a testimony not to its truth, but to
the delusional and/or dishonest mindset of the people who go
on citing it.
³ Note further (and it is important to note this): only a small and
very deeply disturbed fraction of the Gay/Lesbian population do
in fact Hate heterosexuals/straights/”breeders” — there’s a whole
lot more going on in this maelstrom than just SJWs running all
over the place, Hating on Life, Liberty & the Pursuit of Happiness.
HTML tag-fail. shame.
I think it could be shortened to “C” for confused.
“Twospirit” is so binary and restrictive. Rise up, three-or-more spirited folk. You have nothing to lose but your socially-induced exclusionary chains!
Am I the only one who hears “LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP” in the same rhythm as “PPAP (Pen Pineapple Apple Pen)”?
Probably.
They already have a title….Legion.
OT: the three year old girl in North Carolina the was presumed kidnapped was found dead by a dive team and the live in bf has been charged. These stories are becoming all to predictable on who done it.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mariah-woods-believed-dead-mother-boyfriend-arrested-article-1.3672349
@ Anonymous Reader:
Canadians that I’ve met are invariably polite and always willing to compromise. Probably that makes them very easy to bully.
Our daughter recently pointed out that this is also a problem with American Protestants, of which we are. She noted that you don’t hear of leaders of mosques and synagogues (I’ll include Orthodox here as well, I suppose) changing the ways that they worship or tweaking their doctrines to make them more palatable to the greater culture and include more people.
Only we do that she noted, and it makes us easy to pick fights with because they (SJWs and the like) know we are going to back down or fold altogether.
Hey everyone
I’m still kinda new to this WordPress thing and browsing through all the different threads that I find interesting, but is it me or is WordPress fanatical with it’s heavy moderation or is it Dalrock in particular?
It seems to be a 50/50 hit and miss whether whatever comment I post shows up or not in here
It’s extremely frustrating and makes me hesitant to even say anything….I normally think about what I’m going to say quite deeply, and I put a lot of time and thought into my comments, and to be honest I don’t have time to waste posting stuff if it gets thrown into spam or deleted (the ironic thing is, this comment might not ever see the light of day!)
I honestly thought the SJW’s and the libtards were heavy handed with deleting and censoring comments until I came in here
And it’s not just Dalrock, every blog I’ve been in on WordPress seems to be the same, there’s not 1 exception, all conservative Christian, anti-feminist, pro-bible, blogs that I’ve seen, ALL moderate and censor/delete comments….I honestly expect the cowardly act of censoring/deleting comments to be the domain of the Leftists because they’re so pussified, the last thing I ever expected was from my right wing conservative brethren
Does anyone here can give me some advice in how this place (WordPress) is run, or what I could be doing wrong?
At this stage I’m beginning to wonder if I should cut my losses and find a new platform like YouTube to rant and rave as WordPress is too soft and weak and ultra sensitive
[D: I checked the spam bin and didn’t find anything from you. I’m not sure what is happening.]
Where do us Attack Helicopters fit in?
Dalrock,
The Economist has a ‘Special Report’ on marriage that supposedly contains brilliant new insights and surprising findings. It is an 8-page feature, of which this is just one article :
https://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21731493-wealthy-countries-marriage-no-longer-rite-passage-sign-having
In reality, it is a goldmine for Dalrock. Pretty much everything they say is around :
i) Weak men screwing ‘feminism’ up.
ii) A ridiculous obsession with the level of housework men do, and assertions of how obeying the wife’s commands makes women happy.
iii) Tremendous denial about whether MEN have been disincentivized to marry. Their denial is far more elaborate than anything H. Bradford Wilcucks writes.
iv) Repeated assertion of how marriage is a bonanza for men and a huge sacrifice for women.
My god. People draw salaries to put forth these fictions. I thought the Dark Ages had ended.
The fact that the enemy is pushing this sort of propaganda shows that they are scared and know they have a BIG problem on their hands.
@kryptonian51 – You are welcome to start your own blog if you don’t like this one or the people who post here.
It’s worked for them for 40 years…why wouldn’t they be blind to think they could keep repeating the same lie over and over.
Frank K,
The fact that the enemy is pushing this sort of propaganda shows that they are scared and know they have a BIG problem on their hands.
Actually, they have noticed the problem, but are still driven by greed, not fear. They want to impute more men out of greed.
Fear happens much later. We are not there yet.
@Frank K
Did you even read my comment?
I have nothing against anyone in here….my gripe was against a possible WordPress mechanic
I was trying to ascertain whether WordPress itself is heavy handed in it’s censoring practices or whether it’s particular blogs like conservative Christians that have a problem with free speech etc, which really baffles me as we (meaning us conservatives) constantly bitch how the Libtards, Feminists, cucks, mangina’s hate the concept of free speech and constantly censor anything that exposes them, yet it’s the fundamentalist, right wing conservative, bible believing Christians who are the biggest hypocrites of the bunch and constantly censor/delete comments that they disagree with
Talk about hypocrisy of the highest magnitude!!
Anyway my entire point is moot as YOU were able to read my comment so it must not have been deleted!
I will wait with fear and trepidation whether this comment makes it out alive lol
Also it might be the fact that my comments simply end up in spam for some reason,…..Hence the reason for my 2 rants here in the first place, I’m trying to work it all out
Thanks for taking the time to reply to me though!
Ledrew needs a makeover. Those glasses and the bow tie scream “deviant”, which is why he’s pushing the alphabet-soup-of-sexual-deviations bandwagon.
elspeth
Our daughter recently pointed out that this is also a problem with American Protestants, of which we are.
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Our daughter recently pointed out that this is also a problem with American Protestants, of which we are.
A friend and co-worker who belongs to a theologically conservative church grits his teeth over what he calls “the cult of Niceness”. He complains it makes too many people easy to push around.
Is this the same Tucker we all knew and loved, but reamed a half year ago or so when in an interview on FOX or one of them, he advanced the notion that we need to “Man Up” and marry the older slags who, having wasted their beauty on cubicle jobs and bars and the carousel, now cannot get the men to marry? Am I remembering correctly? Glad he put the lies to the perverts, I like the guy, but I can’t ask a successful young man to marry a 30-40 year old slag with 300 sexual partners in her past. Why would he advocate any model but his own, married age 22 to a woman younger than he now with four or five kids? Why did Tucker not marry up a 35 year old slag to try to have five kids with? Tucker’s ok, but he is CUCKED about women, what they’ve done and become. A lot of virtue-signaling there. And his insistence that we look past what young women are today even BEFORE they age out is nuts. And he, in his ‘innocence’ ignores the issues those extra years bring (abortions, booze, toxic hormonal birth control, blah blah). And men are to marry that?
I wish the boy well, but I didn’t forget his remarks in that thing. And I hope he’s not next in line to screw up the deal with his wife and kids and skyrocketing career over petty, if not perverted sexual pursuits at work. Used to be a guy had a chick he kept up with outta town or something. These days, the men are lazy, they date at work..
Of course, even if I’m wrong about Tucker on this interview I recall reference here, this still stands, heh..
I much like Yak Yak’s comment but on one matter I beg to doubt. Yak Yak asserts that the LGBTQWERTY people account for 3% of the population. Maybe in Greenwich Village, but I doubt that it is even a tenth or even a hundredth of that. How many people have I ever met and of those how many were anything other than straight. One, maybe two and maybe one or two cross dressers. I have met more Elvis Impersonators than that! Of course people like to experiment and these days great pressure is put on you to doubt yourself especially at an age when ones mind is not adult as well as to succumb your basest instincts.
Back in the day I would have supposed that the IRA were a large organisation but now I understand there were at most no more than a hundred or so active members. They caused trouble and attention far greater in proportion to their number. I suspect LGBE are the same [notice I have now replacing Trannies added Elvi – that is to say in the plural Elvis Impersonators to the list of oppressed and mocked people.]
It is my theory that the rise in Gs is caused by the difficulty men have in finding a wife. Solve the marriage problem and Gs will be as rare as once they were. It is worth repeating here that my Soviet friend who is no fool says that before he left Russia for Thatcherdom that he was entirely unaware that men behaved in that way (although he understood the concept). America is a pig wallowing in its cess-pit.
Yes, quite right, he is the little weasel that told Helen Smith that men should marry even though he acknowledged to her that the deal was bad and of great risk to men.
It’s the same problem with economists or capitalists who understand to their core why socialism or communism don’t work because they lack incentives but they cannot and will not apply the exact same conclusions to modern marriage, they dare not because their wives hold the puppet strings attached to their balls.
The true gold here was Carlson’s remark to the effect “how do you know that all these different sorts would want to be grouped together?” That’s the true gold here.
Suppose the Powers that Is added another “P” for pedophile (“C” for cougar?). After all, there’s not a more marginalized “gender” in modern society. How long do you think that alphabet soup would hold together?
Why are you trolling me? I’ve never had words with you.
You’re not even doing that. You paraphrased heavily from an unsourced kook-rant, written by someone who has clearly never read Gramsci, and knows nothing about him.
Followed your link. Number of primary sources: zero. Author laughably conflates Uncle Antonio with the Frankfurt School (Walter Benjamin’s disciples generally disagreed and disliked Gramsci’s work, for the most part).
Gramsci’s work is all in the public domain. If you want to criticize Uncle Antonio, you need to actually read Gramsci, and work with his arguments. I’m sure he wrote lots of things that can be proven objectively to be mistakes.
He’s strangely relevant because most contemporary Gramscians were Reagan Republicans, and some of that remnant are still part of the “swamp” that the current American President is trying to drain. One of the most famous quoters of Gramsci was Oliver North, who cited his work on “hegemony” on the senate floor during the Iran-Contra hearings.
That’s just trivia, though.
Boxer
Those types seem to always dress in ‘look at me’ fashion.
I deprecate the way – say Wiki – at the bottom of its page will assign people dead for centuries to be fully paid-up members of this alleged group the LGBT. I am just off to hear The Tchaikovsky Violin Concerto; he is said to be LGBT though whether he was homosexual – a moot point – he surely with that beard was neither a Tranny nor a Lesbian. This is as bad as The Mormons baptising people long after their deaths; people who may have never even existed and perhpas have no wish to be baptised post mortem. Then again: how Gay to you have to be to gain a pink triangle on Wiki. Is one alleged incident – an aberration and totally out of character as the lawyers say – sufficient or does it require a regular daily or yearly output of Gay behaviour – and what if you merely come across as Camp but are entirely straight – as say the dance Lionel Blair – who like most dancers is slim and slightly petite.
As The Rev Scalia in my view rightly says, people are not Homosexual whatever their sometime behaviour sexually might be. What a strange world where the first thing we want to know about a person is what sexual act they have performed or allowed to be performed. Having been so outed one must then warmly embrace the label or risk the accusation of hypocritical homophobia. Not even the much maligned Nazis went that far.
The Economist has a ‘Special Report’ on marriage that supposedly contains brilliant new insights and surprising findings. It is an 8-page feature, of which this is just one article
Keep in mind that the EiC of the Economist is a careerist feminist woman — since she has been in charge, that magazine has gone full overboard feminist, without reservation.
One thing I find interesting about the tolerance/diversity patrol is this: they do a 180 on their arguments when you flip the demographics, such as from male to female or female to male. They do this more so than those they accuse of being biased.
Try it some time. I recall D’s post about the Catholic Answers post where the wife was complaining about her husband playing video games, and the advice was for her to play hardball and blow up her family. I bet if we posted an exact copy of the post flipping the genders, and replacing video games with Facebook, the same commenters would do a 180 on their advice. No one would tell him to play hardball, mark my words.
I myself am actually asexual. I’m also a blue-eyed, blonde-haired member of the Constitution Party. I was thinking of meeting up with an asexual group in Boston a few years back but thought the better of it. Daniel in the Marxist lions’ den.
What Dalrock calls “the threatpoint” is a general response that any wimminz can use to coerce her husband into basically anything. Plays video games? Threaten divorce. Doesn’t like oral/anal sex? Threaten divorce. Wants sex when I want him celibate? Threaten divorce. Didn’t give me enough money for the nail salon? Divorce. Works too much to attempt to pay for the nail salon? Divorce.
Do any of you other unmarried bros want to tie the knot with one of these wonderful “devout Catholic” wimminz, who think this way? I didn’t think so.
Was talking to a drone in my Corps last week. He mentioned a few people who have “left” and I agreed with why they left. He then said “Well, the Bible talks about people falling away before the end times”
I then said, “That may be true but we’re not feeding or helping people. we’re not creating leaders, or growing disciples, and many folks want to “do something” besides sit in Bible studies that are spineless and boring. The church is going to be really held accountable when He returns, and he is not going to be too pleased”
He then told me “Our Corps is ready” I busted out laughing so hard at that point and said “Every church I have ever been in says that they are ready, but we’re deluding ourselves. We’re all in big trouble.”
I then was told, I……as usual was “unfashionably negative” and that’s why “I am single” and “how can you judge?”
It was pointless to try to explain.
I did note before we parted that The Salvation Army takes down its “statement of marriage” off the official webpage during this time of year because we dare would not want to offend anyone and have less donations to the annual tradition of our “red kettle” campaign…but we are “bold, sold out for Jesus, and we’re not afraid or ashamed of our Faith, The Bible or our Holiness tradition”
“LGGBDTTTIQQAAPP” is the “LGBTQWERTY” attempt to convince Society and Government that they have a much larger population than Reality gives them. This is nothing but naked political theater to gain power.
Their goal is to force Normals to Speak the Lie (Soviet style) per Solzhenitsyn. SJWs are accelerating their own downfall.
@seventiesjason says: I then said, “That may be true but we’re not feeding or helping people. we’re not creating leaders, or growing disciples, and many folks want to “do something” besides sit in Bible studies that are spineless and boring. The church is going to be really held accountable when He returns, and he is not going to be too pleased”
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I listened to a sermon by Ray Comfort titled “Hell’s Best Kept Secret.” In it, he asserted the tragedy of modern evangelism is it chose a message of “life enhancement.” So, when the challenges the Bible (but not its preachers) warns us about come, people fall away because it is not what they were sold. And they are right. He compared it to telling someone to wear a parachute because it will make their flight more enjoyable, rather than because they are going to have to jump. When they are less comfortable, they not only cast it off because it is not what they were told… they are then even less prepared for what is to come.
This is what happens in society, marriage, church, etc. We are promising people one thing…. whether it is that alternatives to marriage are the equivalent or superior or marriage, that women are attracted to godly men, that if husbands do more chores their wives attraction will return, that we can cause children to be raised without a father married to the mother without repercussion… and when things unravel as the Bible predicts the will, everyone wonders what went wrong.
If the Bible tells you to do something, it is pure folly to think you don’t have to teach it because it comes naturally. The bible isn’t in the habit of commanding us to follow rules we are naturally inclined to follow.
@ Jason
I know you’re not surprised at what you’re seeing happen at the SA. Pretty much every other incorporated Christian body has been infiltrated, corrupted, and compromised, so why would the SAbe any different?
Maybe you and others of like mind are the vanguard of a replacement organization that won’t compromise on matters of faith because they don’t trust enough in the God they claim to be omnipotent.
Dalrock, over at Vox Populi there is a suggestion that you and Vox collaborate on a deconstruction of churchianity. See http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/12/keep-your-intellectual-canon-loaded.html#comment-form
Mainstream media is garbage, Fox News has arguably less stench than average but is none the less mainstream. As talking heads go there are a lot worse than Carlson, he does make some good points and seems generally conservative. Like many, I abandoned him when he wouldn’t hear, let alone understand, Dr Helen. My sense was he was missing the point. I’m sure he deeply entrenched in the blue pill but Dr. Helen honestly doesn’t do an excellent job of carrying the red pill torch. At the moment she’s just one of the few in media we have. As for Fox News, it’s often little more than a toned down sex show. Attractive women spewing conservatism from a TelePrompTer.
The bible isn’t in the habit of commanding us to follow rules we are naturally inclined to follow.
THIS.
It also explains why churchians of shallow faith deliberately ignore so much of Scripture. I’m also convinced that it’s why so much “Bible study” in Protestant churches focuses on just about anything other than the Bible. The risk of someone reading the Bible, understanding its prescriptions for believers, absorbing its contents, and then asking hardball questions about why the disparity between what Scripture says and what they hear from the pulpit is just too great for most pastors to abide. The status quo must be preserved at all costs.
Then there is this: does anyone not consider that a person newly born again in Christ needs constant nurturing by long-time believers until they reach spiritual maturity in Christ? On those rare occasions when someone actually is led to Christ, the church adopts the attitude of “Mission accomplished! On to the next target!” Then they’re shocked – SHOCKED- that the new Christian eventually falls away. The church’s current approach is akin to leaving a newborn infant to feed itself and fend for itself in the wild. Ugly things result from that kind of neglect.
No we are not polite in Canada anymore. To paraphrase Time – “we are all SJW’s now”
https://globalnews.ca/news/3892190/political-commentator-suspended-fox-news-appearance/
Way deeper BS here and way less free speech.
SAD!
kryptonian51 @ December 2, 2017 at 9:28 pm:
“Is it me or is WordPress fanatical with it’s heavy moderation or is it Dalrock in particular?
I’ve only ever had trouble posting once and it was most likely a technical problem.
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Opus @ 5:46 am:
“I much like Yak Yak’s comment but on one matter I beg to doubt. Yak Yak asserts that the LGBTQWERTY people account for 3% of the population.”
They aren’t an even distribution in the population. Walk into a bureaucratic, public school or newspaper office and you’ll be tripping over them; the lumber yard and chemistry lab, not hardly.
They’re also concentrated at the top thanks to being low-trust people in the high-trust West.
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purge187 @ 9:11 am:
“I’m also a … member of the Constitution Party.”
You should pull your support. I was in that, even met with the top leadership and they’re as cucked as any Republican. If you don’t believe me then try recommending that only men be allowed to vote in the Party because male-only leadership what both Christ and the Founders recommended. They’ll freak.
Hi guys
I have a question for the entire group here:
Dalrock, BiblicalGenderRoles, and others are the lone voice of reason and truth amongst a sea of error, a world gone mad with political correctness, and the evils of feminism.
They have correctly identified that the modern woman is a rebel against God and against MALE authority so here’s my question:
I believe that upwards of 99.5% of all women are infected with the spirit of Jezebel, they are narcissistic rebels who resent having to submit to male authority, and the bibles instruction to be feminine, discreet, and obedient etc
But with so many women like this, it’s kind of forced us men into a sexual wilderness, an enforced celibacy as it were, because none of them are suitable to be good wife material
I even include “churchian” women in this regard, even THEY have been infected with the rotten evils of feminism and rebellion….SO…….what is one to do?
As a believer I certainly didn’t envision that I would have celibacy forced upon me, and i don’t believe celibacy is God’s alternative, in light of 1st Corinthian 7:2
So what can I do?….do I wait and hope against hope there is a woman out there that isn’t tainted?
@Dalrock
It’s all good , whatever happened seems to have been sorted out now
Much appreciated for you taking the time out to respond to my concerns
Thanks!
@Trust and there a few…….a few who fall away for the fact that they are not challenged, do not see, or witness an urgency WORSHIP. Very little of family, trust, community. This is happening too.
‘Way deeper BS here and way less free speech.’
Yeah from some of the stories I’ve read in Canada…it’s pretty much closing in fascism.
@seventiesjason says:
a few who fall away for the fact that they are not challenged, do not see, or witness an urgency WORSHIP. Very little of family, trust, community. This is happen
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Yes, I agree. But I believe it all starts with telling them the truth.
For example, a girl is taught if she marries a godly man she will naturally be sexually attracted to him (he’ll be prince charming). When she then goes through the normal lack of tingles — after all, she was tempted to sin (have sex) before marriage, but she won’t be tempted after (in fact, she’ll be tempted to neglect him) — if if someone tells her the truth, she will say that is not what she signed up for. And for that she is right.
Just like Prager (who I admire) and Wilcox pitch men’s benefits and obligations and duties as benefits TO MEN and not to women, are planting the seeds of failure.
Imagine a restaurant advertised a NY Strip but then served a hamburger. Yet when you said “I ordered NY Strip,” they said it is beef. You said it’s not the beef you ordered, then they said you’re just not putting enough A1 on it. No restaurant would stay in business, yet we advertise marriage the same way and then wonder why it is collapsing.
We need family, trust, community. But all of these are much less effective after a bait and switch.
Trust: Just like Prager (who I admire) …
I admired Prager somewhat in the 1990s, when I listened to his Religion on the Line radio show. I lost most of my admiration for him during the 2000s, over many issues.
Prager is astonishingly naive in many ways. Back in the 2000s, he expressed surprise that a driver hit someone then drove off. He couldn’t understand why.
I was thinking, Hey, because he didn’t want to be sued, you idiot! I knew that when I was a teenager.
After a caller explained that to Prager, he expressed astonishment. It had never occurred to Prager that a driver in an accident might take off, because he didn’t want to be sued. Prager was in his 50s at the time. Really, what bubble was he living in?
Aren’t we all a Q for questioning what the heck is going on with us? Every day this world gets more bizzar. If your goal in life is to let others define who you are, you have lost control of your own freedoms. Socialist behavior for sure! I like Tucker because he deals in the realm of the Q for questioning all human behavior. By the way, can’t those of us as C for cis-gender get into this game? Just saying…
An important thing to note about men like Lewdrew is that their philosophy involves no consistency whatsoever in any manner. That includes their arguments, their beliefs, their word choice, and the definition of those words. Everything is tailored, deconstructed, reinvented, reformed, altered or revised so that it benefits their objective. Their arguments will change depending on the topic, their rationales will contradict each other, and they will misuse words.
Trying to argue with them is like trying to argue with a child who doesn’t care about being consistent, truthful, or right. They care about getting their way, and whatever argument they have to make in that specific instance to achieve their goal, they’ll do it, and then without a moment of hesitation flip around say the exact opposite thing five minutes later when that argument gets in the way of their current objective.
Look no further than the “race/gender is a social construct” argument made by the same people who bitch about “the white patriarchy.”
A defining trait of a cuckservate is someone who adamantly assumes these people argue or fight in good faith, rather than with malice, and that all their inconsistencies are unintentional rather than deliberate.
Ultimately, their lack of a solidified philosophy makes their agenda untenable in the long term, but in the meanwhile their refusal to play by the same set of rules as their enemy gives them enormous power.
@ Carnivore
Only 60 genders? That seems awfully bigoted. Why not 92?
@Trust, @Red Pill Latecomer,
Generals are often known to “fight the previous war” when engaging in a new conflict.
Prager and others of the Old Conservative Right don’t want to believe that their enemy is flat out evil, but rather just misguided. Their failure is believing that sweet logic and reason will win the Leftist over … eventually. Prager will either come round to that realization that SJWs must be mercilessly smashed, or he’ll be eaten by them. Very binary in Current Year.
To my ear, the cadence & content of kryptonian51‘s commentary sounds like he is Ne, croaking. If so, then we haven’t quite left the handmade frogs (or whatever they were) behind, yet.
Just sayin’
Oops. HTML tag-fail again. 😦
Shouldn”ta had those three fingers amputated, I suppose …
@Dalrock
Look I know I’m not losing my mind here….I strictly remember answering and thanking you for this comment you just made, and I made another very long comment on this thread where I asked the group about whether there is any alternative to celibacy in light of how bad women are in the west
I am completely frustrated Dalrock….If you don’t want me posting in your blog, then fine I will accept it, and go somewhere else, but to have every single comment I make end up in your spam bin, each and every time I post, or not knowing whether what I say will get posted because it’s a 50/50 luck of the draw is not only time consuming but very frustrating
I’ve tried using different browsers, clearing my cache….so forgive me if I come to the conclusion that my comments are simply not wanted in here
I think it was a very pertinent question I posed to the group, but I’m fed up with how WordPress works at the moment and if you even read this comment, I might just go back to YouTube anyway……Never have I encountered such difficulty with writing such simple comments, and heavy censoring in my life until I found WordPress
And the question IS?
The gay romance, Call Me by Your Name, looks to be a strong contender at the next Oscars:
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/la-film-critics-association-winners-2017-1063801
Call Me by Your Name has been chosen as best picture by the Los Angeles Film Critics Association. The group met Sunday to vote on their picks for the year’s best.
http://observer.com/2017/11/review-luca-guadagnino-call-me-by-your-name-is-a-heartbreaking-masterpiece/
Rex Reed says: Riding in on the crest of unanimous raves from film festivals throughout the world, Call Me By Your Name is a masterpiece of subtle emotions, intense sensuality and breathtaking beauty.
So much praise for mentally ill sodomites.
Hollywood is all about illicit sex acts. Whether it be in front of the camera or behind the scenes.
@Dalrock
Hitting pretty close to home again I see.I know this guy.He used to lead the Federal Liberal Party.When I met him,twice I recall,he was working with the Provincial Liberals.He is a classical “Toronto Liberal”.Once again,I despise these people.I like Tucker on Fox News.If he wants bone head Liberals to belittle and berate he is getting the cream of the crop in Ledrew.I am glad that you posted this….just to show everyone here at your blog how screwed up some Canadians are….especially the Liberals! One thing that I can tell you about this moron is that he is a hostage to the largess of the Bronfman Family(Distillers of Seagrams).So is Justin Trudeau.When the Bronfman Family says “JUMP”….they ask “how high”.I like the Bronfman Family as they are friends of our family.They normally finance both sides of a political election….as we have been known to do also.I do not really consider them Liberals but,opportunists.They really don’t care who wins as long as they remain the “power behind the throne”.Personally,I do care who wins! But,unfortunately no worthy Conservative candidate has shown himself in Federal Politics.The only way that Trudeau got elected was his “legalize weed” platform…..which was a Bronfman platform.Do they care about legal weed?…Not one iota!….only as long as they control it.I am invested in 8 weed companies as we speak.The takeover game is about to begin in order for the consolidation of the industry into a few hands.I plan on being within those “few hands”!
@kryptonian51 s
I just double checked and I still don’t see any comments from your email address in the spam bin, but found four in the trash bin and fished them out. There isn’t a moderation setting I can set to move comments to trash. I can set them to go to moderation or spam, but not to trash. One thing we found a while back is that WordPress has a bug if you have a wordpress account and try to post a comment without already being logged in. It should prompt you to log in first, but for some reason sometimes it was allowing the comment and then moving it to spam. Maybe they changed the destination to trash? I see that you have a wordpress account, so I would suggest to make sure you are logged in when you try to comment and see if that helps.
The real mistake Ledrew made was going on camera unprepared. Not at least having some concept ahead of time of what the flyer might mean, be able to talk about it even to show skepticism. That’s political malpractice, no wonder he became a dust mop for Tucker. He could have done a quick search while waiting to go live.
Whether he would be afraid nevertheless to distance himself from the manifesto, fearing exile to the SJW outer darkness, OK that’s a different question.
I do acknowledge how Tucker drew the Party guy out, that was a good job.
Tucker wasn’t 100% right in some of his assertions, those could give a false impression. True, Canada does not have free speech in the sense the USA does, as a written constitutional guarantee. Neither does England. (The UK has no written constitution at all). Lip service is paid to the free speech concept, but things like civil or even criminal libel are still possible in ways that cannot occur here. (i.e., prosecutions for seditious libel: where the crime is deemed more serious because what you are saying is true). And yes there is more than a little speech coding regulating up there. Which has resulted in many firings and disappearances of some Hoser personalities.
I’m not so sure there are many people “in jail” for uttering insulting speech in the Provinces as Tucker claims. That said, what did happen (and is very troubling) was a major prosecution in Canada for “terroristic threats” spearheaded by a couple of women who then ginned up their friends to invent additional claims against the hapless defendant. Fortunately he and his lawyer did their homework and got a directed judgment of acquittal by proving the “victims” were crowing about putting him in prison and gloating how they could do even more damage, being exposed as liars on the stand. So the man didn’t get jail time, but he did have to spend beaucoup Loonies to beat the rap, essentially being socked with a huge fine for something he didn’t do and would have never been a criminal matter here. A college campus civil show trial, maybe, but not criminal.
@Yet Another Commenter
Would you mind explaining to me what exactly is a Ne,croaking?
To satisfy truth in advertising, Tucker’s name should begin with an F. Or a C.
But the ‘conservatives’ and the Breitbartians luuurve ole Cucker! Oh yeah and the ‘Christians’ luuurve him too! He’s a hero. He hews to the expected platform, including the conservative/Repugnicant version of feminism. Of course, he is NOT a feminist. He’ll even tell you that. Like the other cuckservatives.
Cucker and a few other Good Males — along with the majority of FOX hosts, consisting of aging thirtysomething females in tight skirts (no hypocrisy there!) — is fully on-board with modern feminist America. While preaching Staunch Conservatism of course. Like his millions of admiring fans.
Cucker’s dad was a U.S. Ambassador, and little Cucker’s future was made before grade school. Attended the usual East Coast boarding schools . . . standard pre-elite shuffle. Cucker knows about as much about working-class males as Donald Trump. Cucker is a first-class White Knight, ever ready and willing to toss Those Other Bad Males under the fem-bus, while he rakes in the dollars and the acclaim. Like Hannity, ole Cucker just can’t wait for Those Other Bad Males to be taken-down by the gynarchy for offending a Holy Female thirty years ago . . . unless said Bad Male happens to be running for a GOP office he covets for The Team. Then it’s all probly a mistake. :O) Women Never Lie unless it’s Judge Moore’s case. :O)
These people are heavily vetted before being allowed their pulpits. Tucker has three daughters. Think that influences his pronouncements concerning your feminist nation? About as much as nearly all Presidents for the past half-century having daughters. What a coincidence. Similarly, it matters bigly that Henboy Hannity has a daughter. These boys aren’t gonna follow God’s commands if it means their precious princess can’t have her fabulous career, in her fabulous bubble-gynarchy, fronted by fabulous men like . . . well like Cucker! Do you imagine the Murdoch’s didn’t understand all this before giving him a voice? That the Deep State isn’t aware of every permutation presented by its converged media?
Etc.
@Dalrock
Sorry Dalrock, don’t mean to sound accusatory but the fault seems to be at your end, not mine…It just did it again
I made a reply to Yet Another Commenter and BLAM instantly consigned to your trash bin
The very fact you acknowledge that I have been making comments and that you had to fish them out of the trash shows that for some reason your settings for WordPress always end up getting my comments deleted, so forgive me if I think it’s personal, as no one else seems to be having this much trouble in here but me…insert sad face
By the way, I am always logged in when I make comments, and as far as I’m aware it’s not actually possible to comment in WordPress unless you are logged in with an account so there goes that theory lol
I actually want to make contributions here, and not have your threads cluttered up with us debating endlessly why my comments always end up in your trash until you fish them out
Ray I think you just about nailed it.
Now I correct myself: Section 2 of the Canadian Charter (adopted in current form in 1982!) has a general guarantee of freedom of the press and speech, but it is much more circumscribed with specific statutory and other limits. Basically you have free speech, but the government can limit speech when it feels like it.
The laws as to both civil and criminal libel in particular are much more extensive than in the USA, basically tracking the free speech limits found in the UK and many other European countries.
“Basically you have free speech, but the government can limit speech when it feels like it.”
That is the exact opposite of free speech.
‘Basically you have free speech, but the government can limit speech when it feels like it.’
Gunner Q pointed it out…but that does sound like something out of an Orwell novel.
‘Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others.’
The headline says Men Should Be Uncomfortable at work. In a national business newspaper.
The story then preaches that men should not over react and stop meeting, mentoring women.
Disconnect much??
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/post-metoo-its-time-for-men-to-get-uncomfortable-atwork/article37176443/
Pence rule for the win
‘The headline says Men Should Be Uncomfortable at work. In a national business newspaper.’
*Checks the author*
Aaaaaaaaaaand there it is.
The headline says Men Should Be Uncomfortable at work. In a national business newspaper.
More proof that these absurd twats don’t even know what a workplace is for, and why an employer should hire anyone.
mgtowhorseman says:
December 4, 2017 at 6:47 pm
The headline says Men Should Be Uncomfortable at work. In a national business newspaper.
The story then preaches that men should not over react and stop meeting, mentoring women.
Disconnect much??
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/post-metoo-its-time-for-men-to-get-uncomfortable-atwork/article37176443/
Wow. The author even goes on to say that if a man avoids interacting with women in the workplace, that is a form of discrimination and harassment in and of itself.
How is he supposed to defend himself from arbitrary accusations?
In the end….the fallout from all these accusations (true or me too not) is the following:
More men will take up a more MGTOW mindset. More men will not get married. The mildly “thirsty” man who has more than a few brain cells will use a grip of more discernment concerning dating / hooking up. Some men are going to go Ghost or just pull back….
And since the church now fully mirrors the greater culture and not the other way around……
The cries, wails of “where are the men?” Will get louder in the church, and the shaming, belittling, and tough talk at the single men who ate left will get louder. A lot louder.
There will be more workshops, be-a-man retreats. More books and reorganized mens groups that will have “bold and new strategies” by amazing pastors who lead “some of the fastest growing churches in America”
The subtleness will be in Christian comedy and movies. The digs will be a little harder on the Daystar Network and more men will leave the church.
The fallout from this will cause marriage to sink further downward
OT: Androsphere special
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/dear_prudence/2016/06/dear_prudence_i_can_t_stay_broken_up_with_my_homeless_boyfriend.html
“I broke up with my long-time boyfriend for the fourth time yesterday. He’s a manipulator and a drunk and a narcissist but also fun and charming… My ex has lots of homeless, unhealthy, alcoholic friends who hang out in the park. I am basically his job. He hangs out with me so he can afford his lifestyle of drinking in the park and still keep a roof over his head.”
@gunnerQ, @earl
Opposite of free speech indeed. Looked that way to me too when I was reading the civics article on that part of the Canadian Charter whilst autocorrecting.
Spike,
Wow. The author even goes on to say that if a man avoids interacting with women in the workplace, that is a form of discrimination and harassment in and of itself.
How is he supposed to defend himself from arbitrary accusations?
You are still giving these femi-faggots too much credit. She can’t even think that far. A ‘man’
is just an abstract object to blame for her own mental volatility. She obviously doesn’t know what real WORK is.
‘Feminism’, far from helping women, has instead exposed the full extent of female inferiority (moral, intellectual, psychological, economic, civic, spiritual) far more visibly than was ever possible before ‘feminism’.
Wow, every single line of that ‘workplace’ article is sheer delusion and/or misandry. This is an entirely false economy. Just some excepted lines :
Sexual harassment was painted here as confounding. Better to dodge half the working world and hope for the best.
Yes. 50% of the workforce but net 0% of productivity (maybe negative). Therein lies the true cost of women in the workplace.
said Calgary’s Christine Hart, a self-described “gender intelligence expert” who spoke at the Men and Masculinity 2017 Summit, which attracted a co-ed audience of about 100 last month in Toronto.
Gender Intelligence expert? A female? And a conference with 100 manginas is newsworthy?
Stronger corporate transparency, the hiring of more women and real support of whistleblowers are crucial steps forward.
No concept whatsoever about why an employer actually hires people. Even less inclination to create women-only companies on their own.
Artificial intelligence is far cheaper and more productive than hiring women.
@Fred
“”Canada does not have free speech in the sense the USA does, as a written constitutional guarantee. Neither does England.””
Correct…..I have always been a staunch advocate of throwing the UK out of Canada and becoming a Constitutional Republic….not a shill of Britain!
@MGTOW & Earl:
I saw this article in the G & M.I have to say as an avid daily reader of the paper it has gone to hell in the last 10 years.What I see from all this sexual harassment allegations is that men are watching what is happening and saying to themselves…”Not going to happen to me”….Can you blame them? Therefore,to avoid any such allegations or charges, they are and will ,continue to “move away” from women which will lead to an outright avoidance of them. I do this myself.I refuse to ride an elevator car with a woman where there is no one else present.I do not hold doors open for women.I do not compliment women on how they look.And most of all…..I do not hire women! NONE!
LGGBDTTTIQQAAP: almost everyone’s sexual preference is included EXCEPT for heterosexuals.
And they call this totalitarian indoctrination INCLUSIVE. George Orwell could not have done better with labeling this ‘newspeak’.
It is clear strong forces are at work to destruct all God-given structures, especially the family.
Oscar says:
December 4, 2017 at 10:15 pm
I now know better than to ask if something like that isn’t actually out of The Onion.
They are so nutty and out of touch with reality they are trying to set up a ‘damned if you do and damned if you don’t’ situation.
Correct. If what she’s vomiting out about men is very irrational…it’s because she’s nuts, not men.
And since they are willingly (or emotionally) accepting something that makes them inferior…rather than recognizing it, they blame men.
If you think about it, when women are in their God given role, a helpmate to their husband and mother of his children, or Jesus if they are in a religious vocation…there is nothing inferior about them. It brings out the best in them.
When they reject all that and do the feminism route (FGTOW) and try to usurp the headship role…you get to see all the inferiority they have.
@ kryptionian and your comment of December 3 at 1:41 pm about Dalrock and BiblicalGenderRoles being the only voices of reason and truth – I went over to BGR to spend some time reading comments on that site and while it is true that they support biblical gender roles, unlike here, there is a heavy comment deletion policy / censorship in place, just like liberal sites and many Christian sites who call real debate “negative” comments.
And in particular, I suspect this censorship is taking place in BGR’s lengthy series of articles promoting the use of porn for Christians, where the comment thread is just “oh so overwhelmingly positive” toward the author of those articles. Hence, my suspicion of deleting opposing comments, because it is hard to believe there would be such a one-dimensional response from Christians who are also in support of traditional marriage and gender roles. (The author of that site says he deletes about 97% of all negative comments.)
FWIW, I posted a comment about this on BGR and am waiting to see if it gets through moderation and is allowed to stand. I read the posts and all the comments here on Dalrock because of the healthy debate, and because viewpoints are challenged and, where necessary, refuted by the readers. If I’m right about BGR, that site is essentially useless, even if it is officially about the topic of biblical gender roles.
@James
Insane.
More crazy news from Kanuckistan. A Liberal party member says she is offended and is stressed out over a comment a Conservative opposition politician made. A photo was taken of her and the Conservative and a member of the public. He said this isn’t my idea of a threesome. Stressed out over that!!?? I worked at a job where someone was killed at work 12 years ago. When you see her picture, this cow should be “lucky” she gets any comment. But then again her leader is Justine Trudeau. He was raised mainly by a dysfunctional woman Margaret Trudeau. Mick Jagger said she was the most messed up woman he ever met, and he’s met more than a few.
http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/liberal-mp-accuses-tory-james-bezan-of-humiliating-comments-sexual-in-nature
@ feeriker says:
December 5, 2017 at 5:44 am
“I now know better than to ask if something like that isn’t actually out of The Onion.”
I wish it was. Obviously, that nut bag is an extreme case, but so is this man in his 70s who married a 24-year-old gold digger.
Both cases illustrate unrestrained male and female foolishness. Men and women are different. Duh! Consequently, our foolishness manifests itself differently. And learning from other people’s foolishness is whole lot less painful than learning from our own foolishness.
@Earl
“If you think about it, when women are in their God given role…there is nothing inferior about them. It brings out the best in them.”
I know it sounds dumb because it should be obvious, but it is reassuring to hear that fulfilling our role provokes respect or the much coveted ‘equality’.
I think we are generally fearful that men won’t give us respect. Maybe because we know at a gut level that if men don’t then we are helpless to do anything about it and that is pretty scary. I’m not trying to dismiss or excuse the selfishness of women’s behaviour in our current culture but the fear of being exploited by men is real at a gut level and is not just a feminist construct. It is the result of living in a fallen world I suppose. The ‘beta’ behaviour that reassures us a man is safe to submit to is necessary, it just shouldn’t involve abdication I guess.
Nothing could be more frightening to women than a collapse of civilization. The safety and security women survive in counts on it. A perfect example of the meddling of women in men’s roles can be seen in Europe now. The floods of primarily young, male Muslims who were raised to treat women like property now represent a standing army in their host nations.
“Nothing could be more frightening to women than a collapse of civilization.”
It’s observably the men who fear the collapse. Going off-grid, training in practical skills, stockpiling etc. Women keep swiping those credit cards and sucking the welfare teat… behaviors that are causing the collapse.
“The floods of primarily young, male Muslims who were raised to treat women like property now represent a standing army in their host nations.”
That’s feminist utopia. Women want to be the property of conscienceless warlords, uselessly lounging in his harem with eunuch slaves on call. Feminist dystopia is being the one-and-done wife to the pudgy nerd who keeps the lights on.
Islam is peak feminism. Not patriarchy.
@Rachel
The fear is real. Promising equality is the feminist/complementarian solution. The biblical solution was explained by the Apostle Peter:
God made us equal in human diginity and gives both sexes the opportunity to repent from our sins and be saved through his Son, Jesus…but equal doesn’t mean the same. Our roles are different, and they are God given too.
It depends on the man…but if they don’t have a heart of stone they respect women who fulfill their God given role. If a woman tries to go prideful feminist on the bit demanding respect and equality for a role she isn’t meant to do…a man SHOULDN’T respect that and that’s a good way for his heart to turn to stone towards women.
@ dalrock. Agreed. And scripture should be enough to set us on the right track. What i’m saying is that it is helpful to see the results of living God’s way in real life. I have found the ‘manosphere’ useful in bringing the scriptures about marriage to life. I thought i was following the scriptures you quoted but judging by the improvement in my marriage since I began reading red pill blogs I obviously have some learning to do.
Thank you Earl. The thing is that although I am not tempted to go the feminist route and my husband of 19 years considers me submissive to him, comments like yours still inspire me to keep trying. (I say this simply because it provides a reference point of where I am coming from. )I have often felt that a lot of being submissive was passive. I don’t nag, I don’t fight or insist on my own way, I don’t want my own career etc. But there is so much more that I can do in terms of showing reverence and really prioritizing my husbands needs. Seeing that I can earn more of a place in his heart and be worthy is encouraging.
@Jack Russell
He’ll have to resign for it is offensive to in any way imply that a woman is not sexually desirable but it is equally offensive to imply that she might be a consenting third in a threesome. Stress is a growth industry doubtless caused by Kanuckistan’s lack of restriction in what one may and what one may not say.
@Mark
I will be having a word with Mrs Windsor about you and your Republican sympathies. It is only Great Britain that is preventing Kanuckistan from being invaded by your southern neighbours (who view all your ice and polar bears enviously. Be careful what you wish for.
Oh no, it’s an active role too. It’s like a plug in and a socket. A plug in can’t work without a socket and a socket doesn’t work without a plug in.
I have argued before (I think) that it is a fiction to suppose that England has a constitution. I don’t quite see how one can claim that a make-it-up-as-you go-along-and-see what-you-can-get-away-with system is a constitution or even constitutional. What is written is merely a record of what once happened with the possibility that one might do it again. Brexit for example has no precedent and I would guess with no possibility of repetition. The disadvantage of constitutions is that one keeps having to make amendments: look at America! – so much better off under the administration of Lord North – you knew where you were then – Westminster! but now look at it; Amendments made, then repealed and endless pressure to end the first two. That rather defeats the purpose I think indeed I would argue further that constitutions are rather pointless. Africans always tear up the ones we so thoughtfully provided.
What about that Irish border – still not sorted.
Opus, “Amendments” to the Constitution are not a problem. Amendments are very difficult to pass, and are part of the system.
The real problem is the Supreme Court constantly reinterpreting the Constitution. They’re essentially amending the Constitution without going through the painstaking Amendment process.
@Red Pill Latecomer
As a young Law Student I was taught that Judges do not make but merely interpret Law. Why do Law lecturers spout such nonsense!
“Amendments made, then repealed and endless pressure to end the first two.”
Only Prohibition was repealed. The endless effort of Elites to silence and disarm us only proves the wisdom of having 1A & 2A in the first place.
The greatest threat to the State has always been non-dependent citizens. We were the merchant class and then the middle class; neither kings nor pawns, both of whom resent and fear our freedom even when we only use it to go on vacations. If you don’t like rule of law (constitutions) then fine, but how then would you stop the Elites from enslaving the freemen?
@ Opus says:
December 5, 2017 at 1:18 pm
“look at America! – so much better off under the administration of Lord North – you knew where you were then – Westminster!”
Right. Because the formerly great Britain is doing so much better.
@GunnerQ and Oscar
You do your country proud! Spoken like true Americans – not of course that I accept a word of it. I, merely an observor of Americana, tell it like it looks and despite mistakes that I perforce make from across a fog-shrouded pond.
@Dalrock
Are you a born again believer Dalrock? Have you trusted Christ as your Savior?
I’m asking these questions because you consciously lied to me and your followers in order to make it look like I was the one having issues with my comments not showing up, when it was YOU and your heavy moderation of this site deliberately censoring and deleting any comment you disapprove of
No one in here will know that there has been at least 4-5 comments from me AFTER your perverted justification for your lying that was made, you made sure of that didn’t you……But God saw it Dalrock, and he was observing your behavior
Your statement and I quote “There isn’t a moderation setting I can set to move comments to trash” is a bold faced lie and you know it…..In WordPress there is no distinction between the spam bin and “trash”….any comment that is not approved of first is sent to the spam bin PERIOD
And all these settings can be changed in your WordPress account easily, I know because I checked
Once you change the setting under “Before a comment appears” and untick those 2 boxes, ALL comments show up permanently
You lied Dalrock, plain and simple, and I’m calling you out on it
No one knows your name
No one can contact you via Facebook
No one can contact you on Twitter
No one can contact in an email address
No one can contact you via Google +
You hide like a coward in complete anonymity pretending to love free speech whilst being THE most censorious, heavy handed moderator that I’ve ever seen
Only those who have something to hide, or someone wishing to hide from rebuke or criticism needs the level of moderation that you employ
Quite frankly I expect this type of behavior from the very people and groups that you castigate! namely the feminists, the leftists, and the “beta cucks” as you call them
I won’t be back Dalrock, I’m actually looking for Christian blogs who love Jesus and who are not cowards who love to hide, and you quite frankly don’t fit the criteria I’m looking for. You can have your little clique of 8-10 followers, sitting in your basement bitching and moaning amongst yourselves how bad women are, but all I see is a hypocrite and a fraud
Why don’t you take responsibility for your lying Dalrock, be a REAL man, and have the intestinal fortitude to post THIS comment on your blog, so that everyone can see that you have been called out and exposed
Ahhhhh but that’s not your style isn’t it you coward, you love to hide where no one can critique you or your fake ministry
@kryptonian51
Don’t be a troll. One of the things I most like about Dalrock is that he is very gracious to those who disagree with him, so long as they do not get disrespectful… and even then he seems to have admirable patience with it.
@kryptonian51
Also, not that D needs my protection, but I will say he is VERY wise to protect his private identity. The tolerance patrol will threaten the wives and kids of those they do not agree, you know, in the name of being so open minded and tolerant.
@James
” I went over to BGR to spend some time reading comments on that site and while it is true that they support biblical gender roles, unlike here, there is a heavy comment deletion policy / censorship in place, just like liberal sites and many Christian sites who call real debate “negative” comments.”
What a joke!! I just exposed Dalrock for being THE most extreme censorious and heavy handed in his moderation, but he will be too gutless to allow my comment that exposed him to show up in here
I have NO problems whatsoever in posting over at Biblical Gender Roles….you need to take a long hard look at your cult leader Dalrock and see how ridiculous his extreme heavy moderation is….pot calling the kettle black!
Even though this is his blog and he can run it the way he sees fit, the 1 thing the Lord hates is HYPOCRISY…..It’s vile and shameful to pretend to love free speech and to castigate the leftists for their censoring any comment that offends them, WHILST being extreme and heavy handed in moderation yourself!
Dalrock is a liar, a fraud and a coward, so you just keep believing and worshiping everything he says and let him fool you but I nailed him and I nailed him good
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh 3:21But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
@ 6:11 pm
@ 6:26 pm
Okaaaay.
Funny I was able to read those comments…so perhaps the ‘extreme’ censorship is something only in your head.
@earlthomas786 says:
Funny I was able to read those comments…so perhaps the ‘extreme’ censorship is something only in your head.
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It’s projection. People who laugh at a man’s member being destroyed in garbage disposal regularly call others sexist, people who think blacks are so uniquely incompetent they can’t get a photo ID regularly call other people racist, people who shout you down on campus call others closed minded, and people who drown you out with non-stop commentary accuse other people of censoring them.
Woe to those who call good evil and evil good.
kryptonian51 did you used to post as necroking or something like that? Just wondering.
Hey kryptonian,
@ Opus
“I, merely an observor of Americana, tell it like it looks… ”
Perhaps you should keep an eye closer to home. You know, just in case…
kryptonian51 did you used to post as necroking or something like that? Just wondering.
That thought just occurred to me too. They do read/sound an awful lot alike.
As a young Law Student I was taught that Judges do not make but merely interpret Law. Why do Law lecturers spout such nonsense!
Perhaps to “thin the herd?” In other words, if any law student indicates through word or deed that they’re naive and stupid enough to believe such an obviously inane statement, they are booted out of law school immediately. Or am I giving law schools too much credit for integrity?
I believe that upwards of 99.5% of all women are infected with the spirit of Jezebel
You are an optimist.
Dalrock is a liar, a fraud and a coward, so you just keep believing and worshiping everything he says and let him fool you but I nailed him and I nailed him good
Aha…..necroking….Return of the Secret Gamma King!
@Dalrock
Wow, your duplicitousness knows no bounds…..Strange how NOW after I exposed you, that my comments suddenly instantly appear….That “trash” bin of yours has some seriously advanced A.I ….VOMIT
And the ONLY reason you allowed my comment back in here which exposed you, after deleting so many others of mine, is to make YOURSELF appear to others that you have done no wrong and that I’m a troll with an ax to grind….your duplicity, and deceit is shocking for me to behold
All my comments in here are now mirrored and pasted in other people’s threads so that I can retain a copy as proof of your sinful lying that my comments “mysteriously” end up in your trash when it doesn’t fit your agenda
I never wanted to go to war with you Dalrock, but your lying needed to be confronted so that you can repent:
Mat 18:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
Mat 18:17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
No doubt your vulture goons will take me to task that I said I wouldn’t be back….I don’t care any more as God is watching this entire drama play out
Just man up, and admit IN HERE that you lied
Does this ‘krypotonian’ have a point or anything close to it?
He seems to think his own WordPress difficulties mean Dalrock is censorious. He is not. Many people here have commented on this blog for 6+ years.
‘Kryptonian’ seems to adhere to a principle of ‘never say in 10 words what can be said in 10,000’.
Dalrock has let me argue here since 2013ish. This despite the fact that I’m unmarried, and have never been a Christian.
Of course, I don’t know what happened, and I don’t judge; but, In general, if anyone feels that he can do a better job of blogging, he should start filling his own blog up with content. When people do this, they should post links to their own site around (not just in this comment box, but around the internet in general). There needs to be thousands of different antifeminist blogs, and not just a few. Our enemies need to know that we exist, and the easiest way to do that is to pick up our own loudspeaker.
Boxer
Geez… It’s always Transgender this, Lesbian that, Gays the other, but what about the Necrophiliacs? Why is their story always being buried?
Why is the Necrophiliac community still being forced to remain largely underground?
Isn’t it about time we threw the mortally-challenged a life line?
And isn’t it about time we stop digging the dirt on Trans-living couples and at last included them in the LGBTQ Community?
Surely it’s about time we said; Long live Necros and long live the LGBTQN community!
If only there was an ideal woman that God created who is the blueprint for how women are to act & be…the anti-Jezebel if you will. The woman who has enmity with the devil and her offspring has emnity with the devil’s offspring.
Who could that be?
Well Earl, the Word tells us in many areas that IF a man can FIND such a woman, she is worth much. The word “find” is clincher.
Christian pastors and the like will tell us “you will meet a great gal in church”
Sure, I agree in principle with that. Odds are probably better there than out and about. Pastors then assume that every single woman (single mom, divorced, any form of singleness) is perfectly ready to be a wife, mother, and helper. We know that’s not true.
The solid women I know, and admire in church are already married and have been for awhile. They of course don’t know anyone to set me up with.
It’s cool. Hey……..about six, eight years ago…..a lot….MOST Christian single blogs and webpages were telling singles “God’s gonna give you the desires of your heart, and if you want to be married. Trust Him. He will bring you a spouse”
Now? The creeping tag line of “You may not get married, it’s all about Him and not you”
What I also find disturbing plenty of single Christian women now feel its perfectly okay to be a single mom and “adopt” a child because “no real man could step up”
I thought in our Christian worldview children are supposed to have a mom and a DAD? Churches have no problem with this idea, plenty of bloggers too
I’ve just now added kryptonian51 to the blacklist. Looking at his IP addresses, he appears to be using TOR. I don’t have any issue with that, but perhaps wordpress does. On the question of wordpress having separate spam and trash bins, see this discussion on the wordpress forums. I had forgotten that the blacklist says it will send comments to trash, because (as the linked thread confirms) it actually sends them to the spam bin instead.
To repeat myself: kryptonian51 is “Ne, croaking” — i.e., Necroking, of late fame & glory (“I infiltrated your blog, blah, blah, blah …”), who either is the Handmade Frog (Artisanal Toad) himself, or one of his, uh, toadies. The tone & cadence of the verbal diarrhea were (to my ear) exactly the same from the start of Round 2.
Sorry, Dalrock: you appear to have a Loony Cyberstalker freak. Glad you have the AR-15. 🙂
Expect a return under yet other guises; you’re dealing with a psychological obsessive.
FWIIW.
Pax Christi Vobiscum
Dalrock has let me argue here since 2013ish. This despite the fact that I’m unmarried, and have never been a Christian.
I don’t line up with Boxer on some things (esp the Rebellion 😉 but I value his considered commentary here. He is a valued and educated interlocutor. I’d be honored to buy him a beer somewhere and chat.
Not so for some others we know of. Begone!
Dalrock —
“@James
BGR’s lengthy series of articles promoting the use of porn for Christians”
“Insane.”
Christians and Hebrews should be demanding restriction of open pornography. Not from a holier-than-thou stance, but as a practical (biblical) necessity for national health and survival.
When I was young, porn wasn’t readily available. By evidence of the past forty or fifty years, its incremental normalization was a huge mistake. America was far healthier, happier and productive then. I see a lot of accusing, finger-pointing elements in current America, but if they weren’t hypocrites and vampires they’d dial psycho-sexual America back to 1951 or so. Porn illegal, com outlets supervised to ensure non-graphic content, etc. It’d be easy actually, the benefits would be tremendous, plus it’d piss-off the Mob and such, what’s not to like? Females accrue substantial wealth, influence, and power in highly somatic, sexualized cultures — much less Jezebel’s post-feminist cultures. And many weak men likewise profit from national destruction. Many at this point wouldn’t give up their pron. So, they don’t get asked.
But I don’t think either the feminine, or most of the masculine, collectively want that. American society is saturated in sex, equivalent to late Babylon or Rome, but the more sexualized a nation becomes, the more in-control is the feminine imperative, and the quicker the nation corrupts.
If Trump or anyone else wants to reverse rotting America — much less make it ‘great’ — it’ll take a God-fearing, Bible-loving elite to re-establish fatherhood, sonship, and brotherhood in the U.S. Or maybe to establish it for the first time. Just as Malachi 4 documented. That’ll please Father and then, anything’s possible. No amount of wall-building or infrastructure-strengthening will get this bulldog fed, and the enemy already is in the gates, households, and seats of power.
Obviously the current U.S. teems with persons small and great that oppose with all their resources and wills the Scriptural restoration of America. They resent and hate authentic authority, especially the authority and holiness of Father. Satan is brought to heel with the truth. It’s a war. But good things can be established then, and thereafter.
Only this choice has a future. I didn’t decide this, God decided it, I’m just repeating, like others. The water’s in the pool but I can’t get wet for them.