As for My people, children are their oppressors, And women rule over them.
-Isaiah 3:12, NKJV
Greta Thunberg has been all over the web the past few weeks, and after clicking on this story it struck me how much she looks like the “Fearless Girl” statue that was on Wall Street a few years back. I don’t think this is mere coincidence. Both are icons of our age, representing our greatest aspirations. Both are all about the sneer, 100% pure moxie untarnished by wisdom or experience.
But Thunberg has something the statue can’t have, the power to scold. Surely this must give chivalrists a thrill up their legs.
Related: Feminism in a picture.
She and Desmond is Amazing need to be taken away from their “parents.”
It’s a part of the broader trend of prioritizing youth and its prerogatives as the powers that be (who are not youth themselves) are weaponizing the young against the antagonists of the powers that be (who are also not young). They’re being used as proxies, much the same way that professors in universities have long used students as proxies to fight their own culture wars inside the university structure.
Nova-
Exactly right. In the 60s when the students took over the universities, with their lists of “non-negotiable demands” why were they listened to at all?
Where were the grown ups?
Why didn’t the administration just announce “you are children. You need to get back to class or risk expulsion. You have acquired exactly ZERO wisdom and credibility at your age to make these stupid demands.”
We have no ingested, completely and sincerely the idea that children have something to teach US, rather than the other way around. Its just more clown world.
Reminds me of “Youth Sunday”, where the children get to preach, even while countless men with something to say are never invited into the pulpit. The brat is lucky the patriarchy is willing to sell the pulpit to her sugar daddy, whoever that is. Any guesses?
Where were the grown ups?
Right. It’s only when you understand that many of the actual grown-ups *want* the kids to be doing what they are doing (as was the case in the 60s as well), that you begin to understand why the “grown-ups” didn’t simply put an end to the protests. It’s all a proxy war using the young.
That has expanded today and been merged with the idea of progress which holds that that new ideas are always morally superior to old ones, because history is a line of moral progress — old moral ideas are always inferior, so we should listen to the priorities of the young to discern moral progress, and actually actively dismiss the voices and priorities of the established and “old” because, again according to the progressive view, these older views are, definitionally/axiomatically, less moral and outdated. In that context adulation of the young and promotion of their ideas and perspectives is ideologically grounded.
Of course, as a practical matter something else entirely is actually taking place. The young did not get their ideas from thin air. They were taught them by a small(er) fraction of the old, a progressive, dissident, change-agent faction that has opportunistically used the young for generations now as the host agent for various social viruses which cause radical social change. This is where the proxy element comes in — it allows that smaller faction among the older to punish those in its own older age cohort who hold “older” views by means of deploying the young as radical social change agents, bootstrapping on the normal inter-generational friction to create radical social change. This has been an ongoing process for decades, of course, but it has been most pronounced in the 1960-70 era, when the boomers were young, and now, with the young millenials.
Substantively we know this is nonsense, but it’s very difficult to dislodge. Using generational friction in this way — weaponizing it — is an excellent strategy because it links together an ideology that isn’t inherently attached to the young (it doesn’t originate among them, it is taught to them) with something that is (disdain for older generations), which dramatically increases the power of the weapon. Smart tactics.
Nova-
Despite the obviousness of this ploy, it somehow still works. Whatever happened to children being seen and not heard?
https://garveys-ghost.blogspot.com/2019/09/and-children-shall-be-lead-astray-by.html
Greta is the modern reincarnation of a Red Guard from the depths of The Cultural Revolution.
Greta Thunberg: Poster child for why Sweden needs to be euthanized.
I cant link it but the video of her before and after the trump pic is priceless and shows this is a totally manufactured event.
My biggest issue with all of this is that they’re taking advantage of a child that literally has diagnosed mental illnesses/developmental disorders.
But haven’t you heard? Voting will stop this mess. The UN will listen to your votes. Really.
Exactly. That a tantrum throwing teen is being given the spotlight and that anyone takes her seriously shows just how insane the world has become.
And yes, the Deep State and the Globalists/Communists are weaponizing youth, knowing that most parents already fear their children. I fully expects governments around the globe to fold like houses of cards within a few years. Just as the trannies came out of nowhere and got shoved down our throats, I expect to see nation after nation implement “sunset dates” for internal combustion engines and electricity generated using fossil fuels, with China, India and various third world nations granted exemptions for “reasons”. And while Mr. Trump will oppose such restrictions in the US it is only a matter of time before the Dems take the reigns. Expect a lot of shivering in the dark to come our way.
Despite the obviousness of this ploy, it somehow still works. Whatever happened to children being seen and not heard?
It ended around the same time that “think of the children!!!!!!!” became a conversation-ending, policy-determining slogan. Weaponizing children politically isn’t new, really, it’s just that it’s now picking up steam.
Every child in those marches was a manipulated pawn. Reminds me of a movie:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_in_the_Streets
The Sons of Mohamed are busy working on that. Greta will end up wearing a Burka.
elspeth: “Despite the obviousness of this ploy, it somehow still works.”
I wonder about that. My guess is that if Greta’s tantrum was working (ie, influencing US public opinion, or even taken seriously by a large fraction), polls showing that would be headlines in the major news media. Day after day.
My guess is that most people consider it insane to take guidance about science from a child.
That the Left believes that we should do so is another form of the epistemic closure that has taken hold of the US Left. Another example of this, far more serious (but off-topic): A big question: why do Democrats want to impeach Trump?
https://fabiusmaximus.com/2019/09/25/why-democrats-are-impeaching-trump/
You’re kidding? There are “churches” that allow such a practice?
“My guess is that if Greta’s tantrum was working (ie, influencing US public opinion, or even taken seriously by a large fraction), polls showing that would be headlines in the major news media.”
It is working exactly as planned: her tantrum is not designed to convince anyone, but to make woke people feel good about themselves while embarrassing dissenters by forcing them to choose between silence and criticizing a mentally ill minor.
I don’t think it’s working in the US, at least not yet, but in other countries that have bought into the climate change lie I suspect it’s working well.
I expect nation after nation to eventually begin announcing future bans not only on the sale of ICE cars, but even eventually on the operation of existing ICE cars, as many European cities no longer allow diesel cars to operate within city limits. This is going to snowball and fast.
Of course, this means that if you aren’t well to do that you won’t be able to afford one of those pricey electric cars, so you won’t have a car, period. There won’t be any cheap “beaters” for the poor to drive,
Ditto solar panels. Those who have the means will be able to install solar panels on their rooftops and use them as a way to stay under the “baseline” electrical usage limits that will be coming. Everyone else will have to shiver in the dark.
@ Frank K
Here you go:
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Using generational friction in this way — weaponizing it — is an excellent strategy because it links together an ideology that isn’t inherently attached to the young (it doesn’t originate among them, it is taught to them) with something that is (disdain for older generations), which dramatically increases the power of the weapon.
ArrdyTheVark
Greta is the modern reincarnation of a Red Guard from the depths of The Cultural Revolution.
One picture is worth some number of words.
Also the Woke will need chairs. A lot of chairs.Can’t publicly humiliate people without chairs.
History repeats itself.
Note to self: keep foreign passport current.
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@Frank K
Youth Sunday is an annual charade in a lot of churches I’ve been to, when highschoolers do all ushering, reading, preaching, etc. Presbyterians have “Lay Sunday”, a similar thing where nonprofessionals do all that.
I consider Greta, Hogg, their ilk as youthful idiots.
They are wise visionaries of unimpeachable ethics from whom all goodness flows, but anyone who speaks against them is attacking children.
Good point about the Red Guard.
I just wish we could get past the myths about the 1960s. Scott:
“In the 60s when the students took over the universities, with their lists of “non-negotiable demands” why were they listened to at all?”
– They weren’t listened to. Not sure where you’re getting this.
“Where were the grown ups?”
– Many of the ‘student’ leaders were born in the 1930s, e.g Abbie Hoffman – they *were* the grownups.
‘Why didn’t the administration just announce “you are children. You need to get back to class or risk expulsion. You have acquired exactly ZERO wisdom and credibility at your age to make these stupid demands.” ‘
-They did. Eventually Reagan called in the National Guard, but that seemed too much for many ‘grownups’ and so the nation was divided. See the 1968 Democrat Convention fight between old guard and Kennedy supporters, none of whom were young.
“We have now ingested, completely and sincerely the idea that children have something to teach US, rather than the other way around. Its just more clown world.”
– That’s how women think, they want to live vicariously thru their children if not on an adventure themselves. A better way to phrase it then is ‘We have now put women’s feelings at the centre of our civilisation’. But that started at least a century ago and was especially spread by Hollywood, then TV, now social media.
My ‘conservative’ mother is now 90, but I watched her flip flop through the 1960s embracing or sympathising with every new ‘youth’ trend. If we had left men like my Dad in charge this would not be happening, and we younger men would readily have followed them, but we were told we needed to make way for the women because we had fought the wars for ‘freedom’ and ‘equality’, and that’s how you get clown world.
Last Friday I noticed in the centre of town a lot of teenage children in school uniforms milling around, sitting in the middle of the road and the like. I caught sight of part of a poster and part of a word – mate. School children of course will use any excuse to skip school but this was clearly with the approval and encouragement of their teachers. The weaponising of children – children not used to the never ending and manufactured scares which have certainly been with me all of my life – to push this ideology. I was later talking to my friend who is also old enough to remember earlier planetary scares yet he was surprised when I said that there many scientists including Nobel Prize-winners who debunk the present global-warming scam.
I scuttled back indoors for fear of becoming involved in an argument following which I could see myself being arrested for cruelty to children. Happily (for other reasons) the headlines in today’s British papers did not feature the modern day Joan of Arc.
Opus
Last Friday I noticed in the centre of town a lot of teenage children in school uniforms milling around, sitting in the middle of the road and the like
Did they look like this?
Word of the day: 白左
https://infogalactic.com/info/Baizuo
Experts Agree Restructuring World Economy Best Way to Treat Child’s Anxiety
https://www.thederringer.com/experts-agree-restructuring-world-economy-best-way-to-treat-childs-anxiety/?fbclid=IwAR0v3eln0hNSW9M7CUGtG66UErrDkoXn9u7G0gl3R3ujztazO5vQNdBsVhs
You’re kidding? There are “churches” that allow such a practice?
If “churches” are allowing women to take the pulpit, why would it be any great leap for them to allow kids to do it?
The fetal alcohol syndrome makes her look like a very stunted girl.
@info
I do not know what FAS children look like, but Greta doesn’t look all there. Some sort of mental health issues seem likely. It is claimed that Great is 16.
Here is an image that is purported to be of the three (parents and Greta).
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE6L2yaU4AACw-v?format=jpg&name=small
Zoom in and you can see they are wearing Antifa shirts. Things that make one say “hmmm”.
IMO the European Green/Left has given up on persuasion and is going full Mao; unlimited power to government in order to control population. One irony: China is the biggest polluter on the planet, by any metric one cares to use, including ‘plastic dumped in the river” — and China has been exempt from every climate treaty (Paris, Kyoto, Rio), thus logically proving the treaties are for some purpose other than “climate change”.
Some Images I managed to pull up
@AR
“It is claimed that Great is 16. ”
She looks disturbingly even more juvenile despite her age. As I noticed too.
Greta Thunberg has Asperger’s syndrome
Greta’s tantrum has been extremely effective. She is the distraction in the right hand taking attention from the left. We are not talking about Trump’s UN speech, or pedophile Island.
And no, the Lord here is not speaking highly of His people….
Important to note: 1) the actions of one of these groups comes before the other, and 2) interestingly men are not mentioned.
Not entirely off topic…. go to amazon, and in the search box type:
women birthday gift ideas
You’ll be shocked at what comes up. It’s a combination of girl power and vulgar ugliness. Says a lot about our culture right now that THESE are the items the nation’s largest retailer thinks women will want for their birthdays.
The content of what she says is spot on. We need to address AGW, we need to stop this obsession with continual economic growth, and stop using coal. Yes, its not just the US, but a global issue. But this has to start with the richest countries to lead the way.
These are not issues that seem to be addressed here though. She has campaigned peacefully, and caused a great amount of support. Fair play to her.
Her autism does not make her mentally disturbed. Autism is not an illness either. It is simply part of who she is.
The content of what she says is spot on. We need to address AGW,
Ok. AGW is a hoax. Michael Mann is a liar. Tampering with databases is not science. Next question?
we need to stop this obsession with continual economic growth, and stop using coal.
Who is this “we”? England shut down coal fired power plants and replaced them with natural gas fired plants over 20 years ago. The US has been replacing coal with natgas for years; there are coal companies close to bankruptcy because demand is down. Eastern Europe replaced coal plants such as the Soviet-era Lignite plant in Poland back in the 1990’s. The work has been done, it isn’t quite finished yet but getting close.
There is one country still building coal fired power plants. That country has consistently been exempt from all environmental treates; Rio, Kyoto and Paris. That country is a huge source of pollution of the air, ground and oceans – search on “plastic in rivers”.
Greta wants to sue 15 countries. The leading polluter? Not one of them. Why is that? Tell us all why one country cannot be touched by Greta and the children’s crusade?
Yes, its not just the US, but a global issue. But this has to start with the richest countries to lead the way.
You really don’t know much about the issue. The US and Europe could shut down all electrical generation, leaving us to freeze in the dark, and “that country” would make up for all of the emissions plus more.
Using kids as pawns is an excellent weapon of the Left. Kids do not think, and if raised without religion, education, or ethics, they can be trained and be used as pawns of death and destruction.
That is why our public schools mass produce kids that cannot read, do not know their own history or have any chance in life. They are the future pawns of the elites.
Liberia and Uganda’s Communist guerrillas.
Colombian FARC (Marxist peasant army started and financed by Soviet Union in 1960s).
Mao’s Child Armies of the People’s Liberation Army of China
Globalist tools of the UN and Soros coalition
The continents and ethnicities may be different but the weapons of The Left are the exact same. Impressionable children, indoctrinated to do evil.
“Ok. AGW is a hoax. Michael Mann is a liar. Tampering with databases is not science. Next question?”
AGW is real, and 97% of climate scientists agree. Mann was cleared of any wrong doing.
All covered here, with links to further evidence:
https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php
We need to cut coal use to zero in the West. Trump isn’t exactly pushing to make this happen, and even in the UK, we still burn some coal still. Then there’s Germany, who shutdown nuclear plants and burnt more coal. And there is also the stuff we import from China and other developing countries, as we exported our manufacturing. It is a joint responsibility to tackle this global issue, as trade is global, and the affects are global.
“Greta wants to sue 15 countries. The leading polluter? Not one of them. Why is that? Tell us all why one country cannot be touched by Greta and the children’s crusade?”
Its 15 teenagers along with Greta who are suing five countries.
Simple, because the countries have not fulfilled their obligations that they signed up to, whereas the US and China weren’t even signed up to it. They refuse to commit.
Do you wonder why she doesn’t like Trump?
Speaking of “fearless girls”…..
OffTopic: Ex-Dallas PD cop who shot a dude in his own apt (it is still unclear if this was a real mistake or some revenge for something) Amber Geiger found guilty and got 10 years.
She got hit with a murder conviction. And yet she only got 10 years, eligible for parole in 5 years. She got hugs from the dead man’s brother and the even the presiding judge!!! No, I am serious!
Does anyone think a man would have gotten such a light sentence on a 2nd degree murder conviction and treatment? Does anyone think a man in this exact scenario would have gotten hugs and a Bible as a parting gift?
If the dead guy was not black and she was not white, does anyone think a “honest mistake” defense would have worked and she would be NOT guilty?
Say she killed a white, Chinese, or Hispanic guy, do you think she would have been found guilty at all?
Thoughts?
Mann was cleared of any wrong doing.
Mann’s computer climate model is fake. That’s why he refused to release his source code for some time. When it finally was pried out of him, his “model” was demonstrated to be junk. It generates the “hockey stick” temperature prediction no matter what data input. For example, when fed Monte Carlo inputs. That is not a model, that is fake. He has sued two men for libel, one in the US and one in Canada. The Canadian judge in British Columbia ordered Mann to produce his actual data. Mann has refused, apparently he would rather lose his lawsuit than reveal his data. That’s not the act of a scientist, it is the act of an academic fraud.
We need to cut coal use to zero in the West.
It’s happening anyway for economic reasons, but for every coal fired plant in the US that is shut down there is at least one opening in China. Yet the AGW cult has no problem with China. Perhaps they are paid off?
Germany, who shutdown nuclear plants and burnt more coal.
Germany shut down nuclear baseload generation in response to the previous Green political campaign. Fields of photovoltaic cells were supposed to replace them, but of course that did not happen for reasons that would be obvious to any power engineer. If the Germans have reopened coal fired power plants, it is an unfortunate but rational response, because the only other alternative would be blackouts.
I repeat: the shudtown of German nuclear generating plants was due to the same people who are trotting Greta around, now demanding more de-industrialization. That fact alone should make at thinking person skeptical of their claims.
Plus none of the predicted AGW doom scenarios going all the way back to James Hanson’s original predictions 30 years ago have actually happened. Even tampering with the climate databases at GSFC wasn’t enough to make up for the failure, and that’s academic fraud. A “science” that cannot make accurate predictions is not science. Climate “science” is a fraud.
Greta is a pawn. She knows nothing but the lines she’s been taught to say. How about you?
By the way, Dr. Mike Mann has lost his suit against Dr. Tim Ball. Because he failed to produce certain data from his simulation to the judge in British Columbia.
https://principia-scientific.org/video-dr-tim-ball-on-victory-over-michael-mann/
@ Wobs
The USA leads the world in Carbon emissions reduction, even though we haven’t ratified any climate treaty. Do you know why?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/study-us-leads-world-reducing-co2-emissions-while-james-barrett
Oscar
The USA leads the world in Carbon emissions reduction,
I wager that the atmosphere just off of the West Coast is not the same as the air east of Long Island. It would be interesting to determine the CO2 percentage at those two points.
Reforestation of the Northeast and parts of the Midwest would be one factor.
@RPL: Thoughts are that the judicial system is definitely weighted toward females in every respect including the sentences which are handed down. Also, females sure do have a lot more per capita accidents/mistakes than males when they enter vocations that favor male attributes (such as being an armed police officer, combat infantryman, oil rig worker, etc…) and people are harmed and die as a result (even with other males trying to be chivalrous and help them). But the media always finds that one or that handful of females to hold them up as “proof” that what’s happening isn’t really happening (e.g. fake news) to protect their radical feminist ideology.
@American says: Females sure do have a lot more per capita accidents/mistakes than males when they enter vocations that favor male attributes (such as being an armed police officer, combat infantryman, oil rig worker, etc…).
No doubt about it. The now-ex Dallas cop Amber Guyger case she only got 10 years prison (eligible for parole in 5!) on a 2nd degree murder conviction (with a firearm, an “aggravating” factor). She lucked out she was in Texas, because in Florida, it would be automatic mandatory life in prison (no parole in FL) under the 10-20-LIFE law.
The dead man’s younger brother forgives Amber. That is great, forgiveness is a part of Christianity. I am all for it.
But do you think the brother would have this level of forgiveness against a MALE defendant? Maybe, but I am not so sure. I am not even sure that the judge would allow the brother to go hug a male defendant in the same situation. It is not bias in sentencing, but also how women are treated in situations when ythey do screw up royally.
I am beginning to wonder if we keep seeing young males “wanting to become girls” because they see so much privilege, attention, and praise given to young girls. Meanwhile the boys get constant criticism, accusations of being rapists/oppressors/etc.
https://SaveJames.com/
Case in point, does the mother see all the benefits of being a girl and wants her son to get the priviledges? Who knows, maybe the mother wanted a girl and is “creating” a daughter, clearly abusing the child.
Mind you, this is in TEXAS, part of the Bible Belt of America. Imagine if this was California or NY? I doubt a hearing would even happen, this would have been a done deal years ago.
Ps. When I was 7, my concern were LEGOs, TV cartoons, video games, and not getting cooties from girls.
England has weather – I am not sure about America: southern California is always the same and New England is either too cold or too hot as is D.C – freezing in winter; swampy in the summer – and thus from my own recorded observations I can inform you that in the seventies we had white Xmases which was what Xmas should be at which time a new Ice Age was predicted as imminent indeed it had already started; but it did not last. Instead of complying with the predictions the weather became hotter. In the early years of this millennium it sweltered in Summer. I know this because my girlfriend was divesting herself of just about all her clothes. The humidity you see. Now, however, it has gone back to where it was in the Sixties, no white Xmases but no Summer nudity either.
I propose that weather is like the Galapagos finches whose beaks are sometimes longer but soon after once again shorter. Gentle variation within a narrow range. The very clue is in the name: weather. Hysteria so I am told by Mr Freud is primarily a female condition cured by and only by men not giving an inch or showing any sympathy. It is troubling when so many men are acting like girls.
Greta reminds me of the amazing Dolphins I saw at the Spanish zoo. As soon as the show was over they swam around aimlessly. Without a script the little actress has nothing to say. I propose Greta audition for the role of Ophelia and drown for real or better still Floria Tosca and jump from the Castle D’angelo into the Tiber – or would that turn her into a martyr.
@Opus, dolphins are, way and I mean WAY smarter and much happier than that mentally unstable, miserable human being Greta Thunberg.
Dolphins are also going to be much safer than Great will be in her own country in less than 15 years when it will be a de-facto Muslim majority country. Want a preview of that?
Check out Antwerp and even Brussels, two Muslim-Majority cities and see how safe and fun it is anywhere outside the “green zone” of the heavily guarded EU buildings. It is like living in an Islamic theocracy somewhere in Pakistan or Tunisia.
Muslims vote (legally or illegally) 9-to-1 for the most leftist parties imaginable to keep the borders open and the welfare flowing.
Back in 2012, there were warning signs about Belgium’s two largest cities becoming Muslim majority and that Muslims were voting for extreme leftist parties: Breitbart.com/national-security/2012/11/23/belgium-on-its-way-to-becoming-an-islamic-state/
The EU borders stayed open and the welfare checks kept clearing all over Belgium. By 2018, the Islamic Party was already winning elections all over the country, promissing national Sharia Law for all.
Now in 2019, Antwerp and Brussels are already a Muslim majority city. Very soon, ALL of Belgium will be Muslim-majority.
Breitbart.com/europe/2019/02/27/antwerp-belgium-turns-majority-minority/
In Sweden, the situation is not as dire as Belgium, but under the Feminist-led Socialist party, Sweden is mass importing Muslim immigrants by such massive numbers and speed, 15 years until Muslim majority may be a conservative estimate.
If Greta does not OD on drugs or antidepressants and reaches adulthood, Greta’s concerns will be not being beaten by the Sharia “modesty police” on the streets of any Swedish city or town, making sure her Burka covers her enough, and not getting gangraped on the sidewalk for going outside without a male escort.
This is why I just laugh at her diatribes. Here in the USA, no one, is talking about Greta anymore. Her rants are completely forgotten. 🙂
These days in US, 24/7 media coverage only talks about is all about a Soviet-style impeachment witch-hunt, a massive corruption scandal involving VP Biden and his cokehead son, and Elizabeth Warren (a Communist candidate) new lie about “being fired for being pregnant”).
Greta who?
If you measure CO2 levels in the middle of a large farming area, for example much of the middle of America, I am certain you will find CO2 levels much lower than in a major city. CO2 is plant food, and current levels are much lower than through most of Earth’s history. They are called fossil fuels because at one time they were part of the biomass. Much of the CO2 is also trapped in limestone. The making of concrete where CaCO3 is converted to CaO by burning is another way of releasing Carbon previously trapped by life (in this case invertebrates making shells and other exterior support such as hard corals). Human activity actually increases total life on the planet, though the diversity of it has at times suffered (eg extinct species like the Dodo).
There’s a deep hatred of not only men, but all humanity, within ecology circles these days. If you want to see someone who saw this hatred foment, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFHX526NPbE
Not everything he says is exactly right, but 90% is.